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Old 04-16-2010, 09:21 AM
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RTTC is the only one I have a reasonable shot of traveling to, but I do plan to attend if there is a fall event or next spring. This year's RTTC was a first year event that was a bit short on notice so I think you guys did alright considering. RTTH didn't have nearly that many cars even in its second year (I believe....)

Hardcore guys like Albert, Finch, and Howell are to be genuinely commended and respected for their efforts, but most of us don't have the time or money to cross the country for any event, regardless of how well it's run or how awesome it would be.

That's not bad Payton, if I could attend Motorstate AND RTTH in one year, I'm sure I would consider that year to have been a blast and a car hobby success.
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:16 PM
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RTTC is the only one I have a reasonable shot of traveling to, but I do plan to attend if there is a fall event or next spring. This year's RTTC was a first year event that was a bit short on notice so I think you guys did alright considering. RTTH didn't have nearly that many cars even in its second year (I believe....)

Hardcore guys like Albert, Finch, and Howell are to be genuinely commended and respected for their efforts, but most of us don't have the time or money to cross the country for any event, regardless of how well it's run or how awesome it would be.

That's not bad Payton, if I could attend Motorstate AND RTTH in one year, I'm sure I would consider that year to have been a blast and a car hobby success.
Thanks Jeff, and yes we've been very blessed to afford that option to which I think I can say for all the gang "thank God for our combined good fortune"

If all the members could attend one (maybe even two) events a year this Pro-touring movement would grow expediently and the events would be absolutely awesome..... they are great now,,,, and the drive (especially a longer one) is one of the best parts of the events...... I mean hey guys,,,, remember the spring break road trips as teenagers,,, well guess what we just piled on 30LBS (I only wish ROFLMAO) and grew a little (OK a lot of) gray hair but beat never changes LOL.....

The organizers continue to work hard to keep cost down to a point where we can go to one of the events, enjoy ourselves and come home without gutting the bank. Among other efforts hotels are also selected with an effort to keep things reasonable too and the weekend (or extended weekend) is something that truly can be stated as a "Life To do" list type deal..... Jump on board where possible, you'll be "So" glad you did
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Old 04-16-2010, 09:47 PM
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Jimi --

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION....

IMHO these events have to be in locations where you have an abundance of like minded car owners. Doubtful you could put one on up here in the Pacific NorthWET and get enough cars to make it an "event".

Tracy wants one in Nebraska -- but doubtful that would get many takers either.
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You'll find a small percentage of people in the community that are actually willing to track their car on a regular basis but that number is growing. Bottom line is, a lot of people feel their cars aren't ready, are too nice, or are too scared to ball em up. I've invited every lat-g and pro-touring member to every event I've gone to for 2 years. Not a single person has ever shown.

I'm glad run to the coast and all these events are happening is, but bottom line is, they are tied to car show events, hence attendance.
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You'll find a small percentage of people in the community that are actually willing to track their car on a regular basis but that number is growing. Bottom line is, a lot of people feel their cars aren't ready, are too nice, or are too scared to ball em up. I've invited every lat-g and pro-touring member to every event I've gone to for 2 years. Not a single person has ever shown.

I'm glad run to the coast and all these events are happening is, but bottom line is, they are tied to car show events, hence attendance.
There you go putting words in other people's mouths again. Slow learner?

It takes a big committment to attend an event that's a day's drive each way. Personally, I have a job with major responsibilties with a required on-call schedule covering 24/7/365 that I share with 2 other guys. Getting significant time off (measured in days) takes planning months, if not a year, in advance. I have 2 kids. They have plenty of activities and sports that they are involved with outside of school. (I won't even get into all my web development work that I do at night)

When you have responsibilty, you can't just up and leave for 2 or 3 days without major planning. I also have to balance my available time off with family activities.

I KNOW there are countless members on this site that are in the same boat - trying to balance all the activities in their lives. Since I have to explain this to you, obviously you don't understand responsibilty. You just sit behind your keyboard and belittle members from your narrow view of the world.

Do I want to attend all these events? Hell yeah, of course I do. I promote them as much as I can. That's why I built, maintain, and host the Optima Invitational site. I want it, and all the other events, to succeed. I think it's fantastic that HPDE events are popping up all over the country.

So please think before you start running your mouth.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:58 PM
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There you go putting words in other people's mouths again. Slow learner?

It takes a big committment to attend an event that's a day's drive each way. Personally, I have a job with major responsibilties with a required on-call schedule covering 24/7/365 that I share with 2 other guys. Getting significant time off (measured in days) takes planning months, if not a year, in advance. I have 2 kids. They have plenty of activities and sports that they are involved with outside of school. (I won't even get into all my web development work that I do at night)

When you have responsibilty, you can't just up and leave for 2 or 3 days without major planning. I also have to balance my available time off with family activities.

I KNOW there are countless members on this site that are in the same boat - trying to balance all the activities in their lives. Since I have to explain this to you, obviously you don't understand responsibilty. You just sit behind your keyboard and belittle members from your narrow view of the world.

Do I want to attend all these events? Hell yeah, of course I do. I promote them as much as I can. That's why I built, maintain, and host the Optima Invitational site. I want it, and all the other events, to succeed. I think it's fantastic that HPDE events are popping up all over the country.

So please think before you start running your mouth.
Words in people's mouths? I invite people all the time. They don't show. On Weekends. I understand people have families and responsibilities. All of my friends that run in the competition groups have kids, jobs, etc, and they manage to deal with all that PLUS all the car prep and maintenance between race events.

Fact still remains, attendance remains low amongst this community. I too agree that its great that RTTC and events are popping up, and I even said so in my post.

I have no beef with anyone on any of these sites and have tried time and time again to meet people at track events. if you take my posts as belittling or offense I'm sorry. I invite, no one shows. 3-5 threads the past years. I put my effort trying to get people together as well.

No idea why I'm being attacked for stating the facts.

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I think these events are great and will get more attendance as they get more exposure. Hopefully the great camaraderie of RTTC can continue throughout any future events. It was truly a great time!

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You'll find a small percentage of people in the community that are actually willing to track their car on a regular basis but that number is growing. Bottom line is, a lot of people feel their cars aren't ready, are too nice, or are too scared to ball em up. I've invited every lat-g and pro-touring member to every event I've gone to for 2 years. Not a single person has ever shown.

I'm glad run to the coast and all these events are happening is, but bottom line is, they are tied to car show events, hence attendance.
Hmm.. I don't remember seeing a gold '69 at RTTC?

If you were at the event, you would have seen a lot of show quality cars getting beat on, met a lot of good people and possibly had a little fun. You may have also noticed that there wasn't a static car show during the event

Strong words from a guy that didn't show up for an event that happened in his own back yard.
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Hey John, Dane has health issues that kept him from coming.
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well, there's obviously a ton of these cars attending the events, evidenced by all the pics of them on this site and others like Pro Touring. I think this should be encouraged, but I also feel that the decision to beat on the car is up to the owners. They're the ones who've made the investment in these cars. I don't think they should be bashed if they choose not to participate.

There are also things like making a living and life in general that keep people away from these events. It takes a lot of planning to attend some of these larger events.

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Hey John, Dane has health issues that kept him from coming.
Second that and he had entered but last minute surgery cancelled those plans.

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