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Old 01-11-2006, 11:35 AM
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All the following IMHO, no strong debate or anything…

I could not have said it better myself!

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Old 01-11-2006, 01:56 PM
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Well........I have to say that I don't like it. I was really hoping for something that looked closer to the original's.....when I look at that car........I don't see Camaro.........and not sure I would know that's what it suppose to be without someone telling me.

I like the interior and the LS2 option.....but the exterior just doesn't do it for me. The front end looks like a 2004 or so Impala.....the headlights kinda look Cadillac-ish......

I was really hoping for the nice round headlights.....the original style tail lights.......and a trunk. What's up with not having the trunk in a Camaro. Anyway........maybe it'll grow on me.........But I don't see me buying one.

I hate to say it.....But Ford hit it right on the head when they built the Mustang. I would never guess that was a Camaro if it was driving past me.
It sounds like you should just go buy a '69. I just don't get it... why do people want GM to build a 40 year old car? Retro is a current fad and I'm glad GM has the foresight to design something new looking instead of chasing Ford and Dodge with their Foose-ish retro design recycling.
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:39 PM
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It sounds like you should just go buy a '69. I just don't get it... why do people want GM to build a 40 year old car? Retro is a current fad and I'm glad GM has the foresight to design something new looking instead of chasing Ford and Dodge with their Foose-ish retro design recycling.

Its a funny thing you should say that.The original model that was started at GMs Design north building was almost a very near copy of the 69.Charlie Lillard may remember for his car the MULE was used as an inspirational piece for the design model.
In June our vice president ,Ed Welburn asked my boss Tom Peters to look an alternative to the design being done at our north building.Tom thought that the 69 is an icon all to itself.He thought the new design need to be an all fresh statement.Think about it.You can go out and buy a new repro shell and build a old new car.The new design had to be something fresh to todays proportions and a new design by its self.Try and look at the car with out thinking of the old.Ill bet ya Fords next Mustang wont be retro!!!!!
I have not seen the challenger.But from what people have told me its a very large and bulky car.The camaro is a much smaller and better proportion car.Isnt this what people like us have always wanted,a smaller bodied car with a big engine.Long live the pony car.

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Old 01-11-2006, 05:00 PM
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:32 PM
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Both of those are very cool.
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:41 PM
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Chris, you guys did an awesome job. When I first saw it, my gut reaction was that I liked it a lot but it didn't rock my world. However, now I find that the more l look at it the more I love it. It really is everything I had hoped for. It's aggressive, oozes testosterone, has many design cues from the 1st Gens, and looks like it's going 100mph sitting still.

The only part that concerns me is how it will look with realistic sized wheels, we all know it's not going to roll on 22's. I can see 18's or perhaps 19's like the C6, but I doubt the General will go with anything bigger.



On a side note, the Buick Enclave is fantastic. I'd definitely put the family in that!
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Old 01-11-2006, 06:41 PM
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Scott, Thank for the good words.The wheel size is always a tough one.When you have really no borders you look for the largest wheel you can apply to a design.For sure on a concept car.
The design was suposed to be done in 3 weeks,turned out to be 4.Some of the ideas could have spent more time under refinment.The original model had been working for months.I believe 9.Maybe less.
During our crash and burn month we kept a song playing on the radio in the basement.A song Groove Armada called "I see you baby" this became our theme song for the car.
Must say I had a blast during this project.Lots of stress.But the best part was the great team of people that I was able to work with.
Sang Yup
Steve K
Vlad S
Greg S
Steve K
Roman L
Brian N
Pam B
Jerry P
Andy C
Ray H
But most of all Tom Peters.What a fun man to work with.When he walked in the room the energy level rose 3 notches.He is very inspiring and appreciates the efforts made.

Oh and the Buick.......Aint it great!! I also could see my family in one of those.

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Scott, Thank for the good words.The wheel size is always a tough one.When you have really no borders you look for the largest wheel you can apply to a design.For sure on a concept car.
The design was supposed to be done in 3 weeks,turned out to be 4.Some of the ideas could have spent more time under refinement.The original model had been working for months.I believe 9.Maybe less.
During our crash and burn month we kept a song playing on the radio in the basement.A song Groove Armada called "I see you baby" this became our theme song for the car.
Must say I had a blast during this project.Lots of stress.But the best part was the great team of people that I was able to work with.
Sang Yup Lee
Steve Kim
Vlad
Greg Stelmack
Steve Kozak
Roman Lys
Brian Neu
Pam Benningfield
Jerry Panetta
Andy Casmere
But most of all Tom Peters.What a fun man to work with.When he walked in the room the energy level rose 3 notches.He is very inspiring and appreciates the efforts made.

Oh and the Buick.......Aint it great!! I also could see my family in one of those.

Chris

Do me a favor and buy those guys a beer for me. Just send me the bill and I will pay for it. What an awesome job you guys did. Really *standing ovation in progrss*. I have been saying on bulletin boards everywhere that GM needed to honor the legacy that was Camaro if they ever brought the car back, and IMHO you and your team did just that.

I have opened a savings account for my next new GM car, and I can't wait to see this in the showrooms. Give yourself a nice pat on the back and git-r-done!

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Old 01-12-2006, 07:39 AM
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You have to add me to the list of people who love it!!

[daydream] Since that song was played in the design room so much maybe i will burn it and put it in the CD player when I first drive off of the lot in my new Camaro [/daydream]
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:00 AM
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I reckon a Baldwin-Motion 5th gen is in order. Anyone with me? Great time for the brand to be re-launched. I reckon I might even get to have a hand in that one.
Kris = Sneaky .

Kris, we need more pics .



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