Project "Payback"

[Vegas69]

Greg, we're in the same boat. I was talking about all these other liars on the site.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Greg, we're in the same boat. I was talking about all these other liars on the site.

Agree totally....

So many people just make excuses... or choose to just "live with it" whatever "it" is.


I often think - when reading or sharing on here - that "I just do hot rods" -- they don't have to be "proven" in a track or auto X situation etc.... and I think about how much stuff I've had to just re-do... and that's just for "street driven crap"! If I had to actually make it perform.... Well.... I just don't even want to think about it.

I've climbed behind the wheel of buddies hot rods/restorations/whatever... after they've just upgraded to big disc system ---- and thought I wasn't going to be able to stop AT ALL.... and they're happy as hell with this! Just the fact that they tossed the parts on there is all they can concern themselves with. Then I get out and they say "what do you think"? And of course, I tell them. Then we set about trying to solve what's wrong. But it's amazing how steep the learning curve is... and trying to make a track car "great" -- is even steeper! I give huge kudos to all those willing to tackle this challenge.

[The WidowMaker]

if you dont want to run the 5th, the schroths dont need the 5th point like a traditional harness. watch the crash test videos and you'll see what i mean. they have a little extra trick up their sleeves. but, the videos do only show the car being crashed one way. id love to see some more to prove their idea.

[Matt@BOS]

Todd, I remembered to snap a couple shots of the cross bar harness attachments. Be warned though, my camera died, so these are some of those dreaded Blackberry pics.




Matt

[Bow Tie 67]

Originally Posted by 68protouring454

If your gonna be fast, and do alot of track days with your car, you will find the limit and go off track and hopefully not into something hard.
I would try to make a 5th point work even if its over the front of the seat.

I agree with Jake, last year I ran a new harness and did not install the 5th belt. It was a mistake, as mentioned you can not cinch the belts tight around your hips.

Also, when you get into more road racing sheet happens, adrenaline rush can play with common sense at times. Experience will teach you the limits of yourself and car, generally my fastest lap times are right after an incident.

Oh and personal preference is to wrap the belts around the shoulder bar, I think it looks cleaner and takes a bolt / tab / weld failure out of the equation.

[mdprovee]

Hey Todd,

I like the new tie hooks and would like to copy you, if that is ok.

Did you go to a dealer, or wrecking yard for them. What would I ask for, or what model are they from?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

[Vegas69]

I definitely haven't found the limit of my car and especially myself. I just don't have enough track time. I've road raced 3 times and may have 40 laps under my belt. Many of those at less than full speed. The car has been set up different everytime as well. The closest I've come to the limit is at RTTC last year. The practice session the day before let me learn the track and the lines. I was still pumping brakes before every corner and it was a horsepower track which let me run the 3rd fastest time behind Pozzi and Mathews. I was on R888's but there was more left... Once I switched to street tires and disconnected the rear sway bar, the car lost it's handle. The recent spring change on all four corners has brought the feel back to the car. I really think the R compounds and rear sway bar was covering up the deficiency in spring rate. Finding the limit at Spring Mountain is hazardous to my cars health. The desert out there is brutal. Ask Larry.... I need to find me a track with grassy meadows. I was planning a private lesson at Spring Mountain befor RTTC but I doubt I'll make it. Time is something I don't have alot of anymore. I just have to accept my fate as a weekend warrior along with most of the rest of the racers at these events. The car has felt fantastic on my two recent desert hail mary's. I've been working on rpm matching and hole shots. I'm looking forward to the events this year.

[Vegas69]

Mike, I don't mind. I can't figure out who I bought my hooks from. Go on ebay and type in BMW Tow Hook. You'll get a bunch of the same type of stuff. My configuration wouldn't work with 17" wheels. It would need to be more inboard.

[monza]

So.... when are you getting a new seat? lol

[Vegas69]

When I build a different car...