My customer EXPERIENCE with Driverz Inc.

[DriverzInc]

Wow, quite the dissertation.

I could compose a very long and drawn out response, but its 5:30 and I'm on my way out to spend time with my 10 week old daughter, and after the day I've had, shipping a pallet of wheels, and fixing everyone elses crap lately, I don't have the time to go through and read this whole post again.

As everyone can see, I have been responding to his PM's, so I'm not ignoring the guy, but he's using the forum to put pressure on me to eat widening his rear wheels for free saying its my fault his 10" wheels in the back and his 8" wheels in the front don't "fit", and I think they do. Sorry you could have gone wider, but they don't rub, and all of sudden I'm the BAD GUY.

But I do have my side of the story to tell.

Quite frankly, I'm very, very tired of guys like Lee, and I'm thinking its time to hang it up. After all we've done to help out as much as we can, sometimes you just can't win.

I guess I'll tell my side of the story tomorrow, for everyone to read....

Here's what this guys car looks like:

QUOTE=jocko124;348661]I got some black SPC UCA sleeves from Marcus and reassembled the UCAs. I think they turned out pretty good.



and then attached my Upper & Lower Control Arms







Finally got the helical spacers in from SPC!



TADAAAAA: assembled the UCA, LCA, SPC springs, VariShock QS2 shocks, and ATS AFX Spindles.



Couple of goodies from Lee Steering:







Forgeline FS3P's:





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[Fluid Power]

So what is the beef? Jon made recommendations, you didn't double check the recommendations and the wheels fit, but not like you would like them too?

Is that about right?

Darren

[ZZ3ElCamino]

Not to poke at the hornets nest, but seems like you should have "measured twice cut once". You being the owner of the car.

Hang in there Jon, you can't please everyone

[jocko124]

When I ordered the wheels, I dropped in on Jon in Corona and asked him what measurements he required. He said(I'm paraphrasing here): "None! We've done 100's of A-Bodies and know the required fitment."

[DriverzInc]

And now I'm at home and I can't think about anything else but this...

We asked Lee if the rear end was stock, and if the wheel wells were stock, and he did say, to his knowledge that they were. That's when we responded and said, then we have a recommended fit that we know "fits".

I'm still not convinced his rear end is stock for his car at 61" from drum to drum.

Also, we take into account a disc brake upgrade, which Lee wants to do, which will push out his wheels another .200" on each side.

Now, Lee is arguing that my definition of "fit" is different. Do they rub? No. But because he has 1.75" of room to go inboard, or wider, he is saying they don't "fit".

From the photos, and from the conversation I've had with Tim Bruning, I think Lee should narrow the rear end by an 1" (like he intended too) and run a 305 wide tire if he wants to go wider, and fill up his gap more.

Another contributing factor, the photos don't show the upper hump (or wheel well hump) that resides above his rear fender trim by about 2" that if he doesn't narrow his rear end like he said he was going to, is going to be a problem. They should not be 3/8" from the lower fender lip, but from that upper hump.

Like I said above, I'm sick of this bull ****. Seems like now when a customer has an issue, they threaten to come on here and blast vendors and put good vendors like us, who work our asses off to help, out of business, regardless if we're to blame, or if we tried to take care of it.

"So I'm going to go on to Lateral-G and Pro-touring and tell everyone your not going to help me Jon" -Lee Samaie.

So what, in order to prevent that, I have to pay the 700 bucks its gong to take to widen your rear wheels for you because what we recommended, although doesn't rub, isn't the widest you could have gone, or your going to publicly slander me an my business all over the internet. **** it, go right ahead.

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by DriverzInc

"So I'm going to go on to Lateral-G and Pro-touring and tell everyone your not going to help me Jon" -Lee Samaie.

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where did you get this quote Jon? I never wrote or said that!

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by DriverzInc

because what we recommended, although doesn't rub, isn't the widest you could have gone.

As long as your customers understand that your objective is NOT to maximize the rear wheel width but to make sure it "doesn't rub" I think they are making an informed decision on purchasing wheels from you.

[DriverzInc]

I want to know what the clearance is to this part of the upper fender (or the upper hump) as I referred to it... Your car has those crazy weird stock fender flares, but I doubt that at that part of the fender, you have any more clearance for that rear tire to travel up and not hit. And if so, then if you narrowed the rear end an 1" like you said you wanted to, how much room does that leave you to that point.


And I want to know how "swimming" is your wheel and tire to this part of your front fender at this ride height, at lock to lock.

[Mkelcy]

After typing and deleting several rants, I'll just say this: Based on this thread, any orders I have for wheels will go to Driverz, Inc.

[elitecustombody]

I won't side with anyone here,because I don't know what's been done to that car, and frankly ,there is always 3 sides to every story,but I will say that usually if a company is in business to make parts that fit and have some sort of database for fitment within 1/16 of an inch tolerances,those parts should fit,period. The reason I say this, I'm dealing with CCW LM5 18X13 wheels & 345/35 combo I bought from CCW, I wasn't planning to cut and widen the $10k widebody kit 2 more inches to fit these under the rear of a car,I can handle the extra work,but honestly I did not sign up to do the extra $2k worth of work when I ordered custom wheels, they even sent me the center of the wheel to get clearance for the brake calipers and best offset/backspacing.

I also wouldn't want a mild cam,just because it fits,when I want the nastiest cam. That's my .02c