Advice On Building

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by 70rs

Here is how I see it. And please tell me (anyone/everyone) if I am out of line here.

If a person chooses to fabricate any part for use on thier own project, as a one time deal that really shouldn't be a problem.
But, if that person takes it into production for sale to the public it had better be thier own design.

You want to make a similar product as RS for your own private use. You went to them trying to find any way you could to buy direct. It didn't work out. So because you can't afford it you're out of luck? No, you found a way to get what you want on your own.

I say more power to you.
That is exactly what this hobby is all about in my mind.

You hit the nail on the head. My project is a one time deal....for me and me only. Not for me to produce and sell. It's for my enjoyment and cruising only.

Originally Posted by RS-Perf

Marcus, everything is good on our end, no hard feelings or anything like that. We were never under the impression that you were searching for information to build your own. We did try to get you into one of our IRS units a number of ways to try to fit your budget. I do really appreciate your post as well as your PM laying everything out and explaining your position. That was a stand up thing to do.

To be perfectly honest, if you are going to try to build your own IRS you will probably end up spending more time and money in the long run. (especially if you are paying someone to do it) I can't tell you the amount of hours that we spent in R&D and building the initial unit. Before we even began touching metal, there were months and months of time in front of a computer designing the geometry and getting the results that we set out after. Building the first one, or a 1-off unit will always take 100 times longer than a production unit (after the R&D phase is completed). If you do not spend the time in the R&D phase you will most likely end up with a product that will not perform as you initially intended. There is a lot more to a suspension than just purchasing several components (that were not engineered to work together) and making something out of them. Not trying to knock what you are doing by any means.

I appreciate your effort to not make it look like our IRS unit as well.

Good Luck,
Phil

Phil, first off congrats on another SMOTY. Secondly, as a respect issue for you and any other builder on here, I would never steal anything from anyone. Whether it is an idea or a tangeable object. That's just something I wouldn't do. That's why I came to you first. I love your work and hope one day to employ some of it or simply visit RS. Also Phil, my frame guy has been in business for over 30 years. He's going to map everything out on the computer for me as well. Nothing will be cut until he designs everything and I apporve the final look. I know it will take time. That's all I got is time. More time than money. LOL!!

Originally Posted by 96z28ss

Hot rodders have been doing it for a long time.
Check into these guys they are local to me and have a good rep. Probably get most of your parts from them.
http://www.dutchmanaxles.com/product...ckage-cv-style

That's exactly who I went thru. I dealt with Todd there. A great guy and explained everything thoroughly to me.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by RS-Perf

Marcus, everything is good on our end, no hard feelings or anything like that. We were never under the impression that you were searching for information to build your own. We did try to get you into one of our IRS units a number of ways to try to fit your budget. I do really appreciate your post as well as your PM laying everything out and explaining your position. That was a stand up thing to do.

To be perfectly honest, if you are going to try to build your own IRS you will probably end up spending more time and money in the long run. (especially if you are paying someone to do it) I can't tell you the amount of hours that we spent in R&D and building the initial unit. Before we even began touching metal, there were months and months of time in front of a computer designing the geometry and getting the results that we set out after. Building the first one, or a 1-off unit will always take 100 times longer than a production unit (after the R&D phase is completed). If you do not spend the time in the R&D phase you will most likely end up with a product that will not perform as you initially intended. There is a lot more to a suspension than just purchasing several components (that were not engineered to work together) and making something out of them. Not trying to knock what you are doing by any means.

I appreciate your effort to not make it look like our IRS unit as well.

Good Luck,
Phil

CLASSY RESPONSE PHIL!!

[Addicted]

Funny I just went through the same thing (decision) , thats why all my suspension is for sale at a HUGE loss.....


Damn IRS. LOL.