Somebody FREAKIN shoot me!!!!

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Greg - I'd say a little out of touch due to living in major financial hubs in the country. $50-$75K is an above average salary in Eugene/Springfield, not many over $150K. Based on advertising demographics by zip code that I've contracted. $50-$75K is more like and average household income.

It's upper middle class in many areas, but it's comparable to many private employers.

I fall more with Greg on this, their incomes are not necessarily out of alignment, it's really that they have a pension at all. That isn't something you can just turn off overnight but you do something like the automakers did, say from this point forward everyone gets a 401k or similar with some matching, and the other people we just deal with the fact they will get a pension.

I also laugh at the idea that private industry is somehow more efficient than government. Every place I've ever worked, large and small has had tons of waste and inefficiencies. The larger they are, the worse it seems to be but even 10 man companies aren't necessarily paragons of efficiency.