1969 Torino

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

I used that exact same pile of parts on my Mustang. That third member looks exactly the same, pump and all. My only advise I would give, is to take that soft locker out before you install it, there is NOTHING soft about it. Its action was so violent in the turns when it engaged and disengaged that it upset the car. A few times when I was on the ragged edge it started to spin the car. Just my experience, and I was running street tires, replaced it with a Waveloc which worked great. Sucked, had to resaftey wire all those ARP bolts.

I can show how to fix those tire clearance issues, it only requires sawzall and a welder. LOL

I learned on my recent road trip ---- that a locker rear end wants to push the car STRAIGHT when you get on the gas and lock it up. Brian Hobaugh was having to be patient and WAIT to get back into the throttle after doing those crazy U turns in the Auto X....

While we know that we're not supposed to be back on throttle until we are "straight"... Another guy we all know -- Danny Popp -- has a funny motto -- "never straight - but always forward". BOTH of these guys are about as fast as a guy can get. Completely different driving styles.

Funny the little things you learn when hanging out at the right places. The Mustang has a locker -- and I never knew about the "pushing straight".... now that I know -- I can either make it work for me -- or at least understand what is going on and become more patient coming out of a turn.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

I used that exact same pile of parts on my Mustang. That third member looks exactly the same, pump and all. My only advise I would give, is to take that soft locker out before you install it, there is NOTHING soft about it. Its action was so violent in the turns when it engaged and disengaged that it upset the car. A few times when I was on the ragged edge it started to spin the car. Just my experience, and I was running street tires, replaced it with a Waveloc which worked great. Sucked, had to resaftey wire all those ARP bolts.

I can show how to fix those tire clearance issues, it only requires sawzall and a welder. LOL

I have plenty of experience with safety wire pliers. I even got a new set last year.

I bought a set of Ron Sutton's 40lb springs. I'll give the locker a try as is and then probably swap in Rons no so secret ingiedient to obtain the desired results.

I know I can count on you for extreme body mods executed in a Shinoda style so I'll keep that in mind

Originally Posted by Payton King

Rob, I am just happy to see that the center section (would be called a C section in Dave's thread) make it back to CA. I thought for sure it would have exited the bottom of that rotted storage box on the side of the truck.

I am not too far out picking up one of those myself.

Well I had to make sure the apple pie was safe in the storage container so the rotted box was the only spot left. I think there was more danger of DG and I falling through the floorboards

Originally Posted by gerno

I have the same center section with pump. For now I'm leaving the pump off but I'll post up when I get running to see how violent mine is. I'm hoping I got lucky and have the softer springs but assume they will need to be changed


You're lucky you have straight panel on those qtr's and not a small flare to hang things up. What's going to be your next car...a Toyota, Nissan or Honda?????

I waiting for Dave to inspire me again. When he does I'll let you know.

Originally Posted by 66fury

Now thats tight !!!

It is tight no doubt. I am looking to maximize the stuffed look. Remember that picture is two things.

1. Showing the tire at its widest point with the axle tipped at the most extreme angle bringing the top of the tire out twords th quarter.
2. Purposely taken from a "shock value" perspective.

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I learned on my recent road trip ---- that a locker rear end wants to push the car STRAIGHT when you get on the gas and lock it up. Brian Hobaugh was having to be patient and WAIT to get back into the throttle after doing those crazy U turns in the Auto X....

While we know that we're not supposed to be back on throttle until we are "straight"... Another guy we all know -- Danny Popp -- has a funny motto -- "never straight - but always forward". BOTH of these guys are about as fast as a guy can get. Completely different driving styles.

Funny the little things you learn when hanging out at the right places. The Mustang has a locker -- and I never knew about the "pushing straight".... now that I know -- I can either make it work for me -- or at least understand what is going on and become more patient coming out of a turn.

345s in the rear and a NASCAR locker this car should push through a turn like the delta wing. I might as well make it a three wheeler

That trip was enlightening. You also learned about tires, generators, GVWR, energy levels and how many hours actually exist in a week to get stuff done

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by FETorino

345s in the rear and a NASCAR locker this car should push through a turn like the delta wing. I might as well make it a three wheeler

Not to worry --- it'll be great at the Texas Mile and Bonneville.....

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Not to worry --- it'll be great at the Texas Mile and Bonneville.....

One of those is on my to do list.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by FETorino

I might as well make it a three wheeler

I'm liking the progress! The center section and air box are nice pieces.

[gerno]

Originally Posted by FETorino

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I waiting for Dave to inspire me again. When he does I'll let you know.

Ah... so a mini van it is......

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by gerno

Ah... so a mini van it is......

[Flash68]

I think the locker's bad rep of pushing really has been a result of these high rate springs inside most of them. I have no proof because it's never spec'd or discussed in our circles (or any circles I could find) but that's my theory. I'm glad I stumbled on to Sutton's discussion on it and bought his set.

Some people love them and others hate them but I don't think most even know why.

And I believe a Torino fits about as many people (kids) as a minivan.

[SBDave]

This banter has got my LOLing


Dave

[57hemicuda]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I can either make it work for me -- or at least understand what is going on and become more patient coming out of a turn.

Patients has never been my strong suite. I've run many locker in drag cars, with no ill effects, they do exactly what you want them to do. Its the road courses that I hated, stab the brakes coming into a turn, modulate the throttle through the turn, midway through the turn while on the ragged edge the locker would engage, upsetting the car(and the driver)started a 70mph drift. I never lost it, but came close a few times. Waveloc has smooth as butter through the turns, and grabs good when wide open throttle.

Who knows, maybe its my driving style, I'm always driving beyond my ability.