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Old 10-21-2014, 04:56 AM
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Compliment or embarass?

Sorry couldn't resist the opening.
A Gen 5 Camaro Z/28 is a full sorted track weapon. We spent 3 years dialing that car in and it is on awesome 60 treadwear tires. It had moths in the wind tunnel to get the areo balance correct, we tested it on 8 race tracks, we tested 8 different tires on it, It has a state of the art performance traction management system on it and the ABS calibration is matched perfectly to the car.

On my first real track event with Hellfire to be faster than the Z/28 on 300 tread wear tires is doing something. I'm swapping to 200 tread weartires, recalibrating the ABS, and make a small change to the springs for this weekend. I expect the delta between the Z/28 and Hellfire to get greater.

Everyone wants to believe their old muscle car will outrun the late model stuff. If you want to go fast for cheap buy a late model car.

If I put half of the money I have in my car in a C-6 Z06, GT3 or a GTR it would be a whipping fast. Way faster than Hellfire.

On a side note I don't want a Z06 or a GTR, I do kind a want a GT3. LOL.

I do this because to get a '69 Camaro to go this fast is fun and interesting.

I like going to car shows, SEMA and doing the Optima Shoot Outs.

It is just physics. They have better aerodynamic, better CG, better track width and most come with ABS. So take a ZO6 and gut it and you have a 2900 lb track car for about $35K. Or better yet get a C-5 Z06 for about $25K. Or you can by a POS '69 Camaro for about $12K and pour about a $100K+ into and 3 years of your life and be close to as fast as a stock Vette.

I do this because I love to and the engineering challenge is fun.

Mark

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Old 10-21-2014, 05:46 AM
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Awesome insight!

I can't thank you enough for what you have added to the overall experience of owning a 1st Gen Camaro.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:03 AM
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Mark...........Freak'in Awsum!!!!
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:28 AM
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Well said Mark.


My stupid little Lotus with it's 1.8 liter STOCK Toyota motor... <blown> and it's little itty bitty baby tires catches and passes well driven ZR1's without blinking an eye... Sorted out track cars seem to be hook to a fire hydrant. But it's just not nearly as much fun as the old '65 Mustang. Don't know why - can't explain it - it's just not. Maybe because it's TOO easy.... IDK.


Love your builds and insight. You? Not so much. See ya at SEMA.


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Old 10-21-2014, 07:42 AM
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I do this because I love to and the engineering challenge is fun.

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I like that reason much better than - --"We are stupid". I do miss how easy my C5 was though
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So take a ZO6 and gut it and you have a 2900 lb track car for about $35K. Or better yet get a C-5 Z06 for about $25K. Or you can by a POS '69 Camaro for about $12K and pour about a $100K+ into and 3 years of your life and be close to as fast as a stock Vette.Mark
But then your left with a gutted vette that Charlie probably wouldn't want to buy Awesome car Mark wish I could be at SEMA this year to see it.
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Old 10-23-2014, 04:54 AM
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The Finspeed guys made me some cool center caps.



I'm heading back to Gingerman Saturady for the last shake down.

If all goes well the car ships Oct. 29.

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The Finspeed guys made me some cool center caps.



I'm heading back to Gingerman Saturady for the last shake down.

If all goes well the car ships Oct. 29.

Mark
The wheel color looks alot lighter in this picture than others I have seen.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:49 AM
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Thats a nice touch for sure!! Good luck this weekend, hope it just keeps getting faster and faster!!
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The wheel color looks alot lighter in this picture than others I have seen.
Maybe lighter from his camera flash.


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