Ron Sutton Offset 3-Link install

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

In all seriousness, the front of these old cars is usually the major weakness, not the back. I think this is great to maximize your rear dynamics but you better make the carpet match the drapes.

Originally Posted by FETorino

I hear you Todd.

Ron always preaches that we are always chasing front end grip and often looking to reduce rear grip to match. Up front is a JRS front end. C6 spindles and coilovers like almost every other aftermarket subframe but is a conventional low travel high roll deal.

Are the Ron's making any changes to that or leaving it as it was when Dave and I picked it up in Maine and delivered it to Ron and Brian in OC.

First of all I hate that f'n pic.

Turn in is good on my 69 but it needs work. Rear roll center is too high, front to rear TRS is off. I think David Pozzi's recipe falls right in line with what Ron S looks for, more caster than KPI.

I had Jake build in 10* of caster (to be verified) on this sub. Will any first gen Camaro out perform a modern c6? Nope. Weight, weight distribution, aero, million$ in GM engineering. Can it get better than I've seen so far on my 69? Ron has measured it out and thinks so. 500 lbs lighter, so that's the plan.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

First of all I hate that f'n pic.

Turn in is good on my 69 but it needs work. Rear roll center is too high, front to rear TRS is off. I think David Pozzi's recipe falls right in line with what Ron S looks for, more caster than KPI.

I had Jake build in 10* of caster (to be verified) on this sub. Will any first gen Camaro out perform a modern c6? Nope. Weight, weight distribution, aero, million$ in GM engineering. Can it get better than I've seen so far on my 69? Ron has measured it out and thinks so. 500 lbs lighter, so that's the plan.

Is he having you changing the UCA mount position on that sub?

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

First of all I hate that f'n pic.

Turn in is good on my 69 but it needs work. Rear roll center is too high, front to rear TRS is off. I think David Pozzi's recipe falls right in line with what Ron S looks for, more caster than KPI.

I had Jake build in 10* of caster (to be verified) on this sub. Will any first gen Camaro out perform a modern c6? Nope. Weight, weight distribution, aero, million$ in GM engineering. Can it get better than I've seen so far on my 69? Ron has measured it out and thinks so. 500 lbs lighter, so that's the plan.

Even with more caster the front still has minimal travel and a steep camber gain to go with the low travel. Plus the front end lacks any of the real adjustability for tuning such as Ron is building into the rear.

Are you planning on having Ron rework the front clip to make it as tunable as the rear or to allow for a true long travel low roll set up?

500lbs lighter than the 69 How much does DP weigh? Did you ever scale her?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Not sure what you have against Dead pool that you hate that pic.

Even with more caster the front still has minimal travel and a steep camber gain to go with the low travel. Plus the front end lacks any of the real adjustability for tuning such as Ron is building into the rear.

Are you planning on having Ron rework the front clip to make it as tunable as the rear or to allow for a true long travel low roll set up?

500lbs lighter than the 69 How much does DP weigh? Did you ever scale her?

Would not be too hard, just time = expensive.

Ron knows where the rear roll will be and its range, so matching the front would not be too bad. Set the front to an optimum RC height while controlling IC's IIRC the change will be in the upper control arm length and mounting position. The LCA and spindle are set.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

First of all I hate that f'n pic.

Photoshop is your friend, my friend.





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