Silverback Carbs?

[Track Junky]

I'd love to see some dyno test comparisons.

[Sieg]

There are numerous 'Statements' in this pic that are very appealing. Self compensating Temp & Alt. Vacuuming assisted foot pedal pressure. Detented adjusters. No Slosh handles all G-force. No gaskets.

[JB400]

What I find appealing is the fact that it's not a copy cat of a Holley. Not that there's anything wrong with a Holley, it's just the fact that other companies spend vuku bucks trying to build a better Holley, whereas this company spent their time coming up with a different (maybe better) mousetrap. Plus, it still cost a small fortune for one of these fancy Holley based carbs that still takes a similar amount of time and work to adjust.

[Sieg]

Here's a decent article that gives a little more insight. Sounds like Bruce Kahlhamer has done a little homework and applied creative solutions to longtime handicaps. Using the needle and seat to set the overall fuel demand to your motor and fine tuning with external detented adjusters is total KISS. I'm envisioning adjusting this carb like your shocks. Take good notes and you should be able to quickly adjust fuel curves for different tracks, conditions, and desires.

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/feature...es=og.comments

[andrewb70]

Anyone that pays $2600 for that thing is coo coo...

Andrew

[Che70velle]

Sieg, when will yours get there? We want a full write up, and pics!

[GregWeld]

I might get one and dyno it on the Mustang....

[Sieg]

It appears one of the designers has the guts to be on Yellow Bullet where there was a 'civil' discussion going on.......


Originally Posted by Z'Stein
What are the differences between the race and standard version(s), and are there any actual comparison tests you can share with us?

cfm rating, the street carb goes up to 850, the race goes to 1300, and then the FULL RACE carb will not have a choke and will go to 1600 CFM, it will be race only, custom design, for the larger air filters and big big HP. also only available in 4500 pattern. IT will also have a manifold with velocity stacks built into the manifold that neck down to the required runner sizes that NHRA requires, so that they can't ban the product saying its not 4 barrel and doesn't meet class requirements. it should absolutely rip.


the "race edition" will be available in both 4150 and 4500 patterns.


Yes I will be at PRI with the president/owner of the company Bruce. My name is chase and I will look forward to seeing any of you there.

btw, I found out we are most likely offering a 10% discount at the shows..... which brings the carb just barely over 2k. so if you are interested I would suggest trying to make it to the show.

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Originally Posted by fatman
When you say manifold, do you mean a 4 barrel spacer of some kind?

yes we have a "spacer" that acts as a manifold and has o-ringed fuel passages into it for the choke and also for vacuum sources. It also has a fully integrated nitrous plate kit that 100% integrates into the carb so your completely ready to go.

did I mention the nitrous plate even has "dial a jet" just like the carb, no need to change nitrous jets, EVER! very very cool stuff

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I don't have any skin is this fight but I'm always intrigued by new innovative attempts to improve.

Carbs are very complex and expensive and time consuming for the average person to tune.

Fuel injection isn't exactly simple or cheap and to tune the systems properly it appears there's more than one person making good money tuning these 'self-learning ready to run' systems.

In regards to reliability, durability, and weight savings I like what this 'carb' design brings to the table compared to current carbs and constantly evolving fuel injection systems. It could be what Apple is to computing in terms of user friendly function.

The unknowns:
Is the throttle response is bland or like a light switch?
How smooth is the transition between circuits?
How much impact does one click of an adjuster have on the fuel delivery?
How fuel efficient is it on the street and track?

Time and testing will tell. Personally I hope the company is a success whether I can afford one or not.

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I might get one and dyno it on the Mustang....

If you're going to purchase and run it on the dyno...you may as well get the stack injection also. This way we'll all have a good understanding of what exactly it takes, how much it costs and what makes the most power.
When it's all said and done you can set the two toilet bowls on the shelf and be happy with the stack set up!

Just sayin

[Ketzer]

Originally Posted by Sieg

I don't have any skin is this fight but I'm always intrigued by new innovative attempts to improve.

Carbs are very complex and expensive and time consuming for the average person to tune.

Fuel injection isn't exactly simple or cheap and to tune the systems properly it appears there's more than one person making good money tuning these 'self-learning ready to run' systems.

In regards to reliability, durability, and weight savings I like what this 'carb' design brings to the table compared to current carbs and constantly evolving fuel injection systems. It could be what Apple is to computing in terms of user friendly function.

The unknowns:
Is the throttle response is bland or like a light switch?
How smooth is the transition between circuits?
How much impact does one click of an adjuster have on the fuel delivery?
How fuel efficient is it on the street and track?

Time and testing will tell. Personally I hope the company is a success whether I can afford one or not.

^^Agree^^
The last time I remember someone trying to completely revolutionize carbs was the Predator. Seemed like a good idea but I have never seen one actually working on a vehicle.
They will definitely sell a few...