1970-81 DSE Frame "Extras"

[badazz81z28]

Originally Posted by Chassisworks

I don't think I saw this thread until today. DSE's first and second-gen clips both take the first gen crossmember. We found this out when we picked up the phone and called them after a customer was having a fitment issue.

Today, we offer solutions for the 67-69 and 70-73 F-Body and the 68-74 X-Body. Direct-fit transmission crossmembers are available for Turbo 350, Turbo 400, Powerglide, 700R4, 200-4R, 4L60, 4L65E, Muncie 4-speed, Richmond 5- or 6-speed, and many Tremec 5- or 6-speed transmissions.

Crossmembers are 1-1/4 x .120"-wall steel, dual-tube, fully enclosed structures that are stronger than OEM stamped designs and rigid enough for the vehicle to benefit from stiff polyurethane transmission mounts. Tubes are mandrel bent to provide 3" dual-exhaust clearance and to correctly position the mount for each model transmission.

Note: Installation on factory or DSE subframe requires additional adapter kit.

More Details Here:
http://www.cachassisworks.com/c-157-...irect-fit.aspx

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This is exactly what was talking about in my last thread. I picked up the phone and called them too. I got the "huh" I don't know, we make custom applications,

They did not tell me the 67-69 crossmember works.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by badazz81z28

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This is exactly what was talking about in my last thread. I picked up the phone and called them too. I got the "huh" I don't know, we make custom applications,

They did not tell me the 67-69 crossmember works.

So -- Carl comes on - helps you out.... and you don't even say so much as a THANK YOU.... instead you whine about having called them without success.

Maybe it's the way you go about asking the questions - or maybe you can't explain to someone what it is you're looking for. Or maybe after a little conversation they can't wait to get you off the phone.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

So -- Carl comes on - helps you out.... and you don't even say so much as a THANK YOU.... instead you whine about having called them without success.

Maybe it's the way you go about asking the questions - or maybe you can't explain to someone what it is you're looking for. Or maybe after a little conversation they can't wait to get you off the phone.

I think he was talking about DSE speedy

[rickpaw]

Originally Posted by jazz2069

I have a dse subframe and agree with some in this thread that the subframe should come with a few more extras like crossmember and a second option for headers that are more affordable. My 2 cents nate

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Everybody should pay taxes but they don't. It's not like this info isn't readily available when you buy the frame.

Agreed. DSE stuff is expensive, and there are other cheaper alternatives. But people still buying DSE stuff, so their stuff works, otherwise no one buys them. The information on what's needed for the frame is right on the web site. It's not a secret. I guess DSE can include a crossmember and jack up the price to cover the cost. But then there are some many different engine/tranny combo's out there, how can they know which one will work. They can't anticipate what the customers will use and design different parts for different combo's.

We're putting DSE front suspension with an 5.3/4l60e into my friend's 65 Mustang. Right off the bat, I will have to either mod the existing crossmember or build something to make it work. To me, that's the joy of car building. Did I expect DSE to come up with something that works, no. On the other hand, we bought DSE LS mounts for the Alumaframe, so I expect the LS will drop right in.

[badazz81z28]

Originally Posted by rickpaw

Agreed. DSE stuff is expensive, and there are other cheaper alternatives. But people still buying DSE stuff, so their stuff works, otherwise no one buys them. The information on what's needed for the frame is right on the web site. It's not a secret. I guess DSE can include a crossmember and jack up the price to cover the cost. But then there are some many different engine/tranny combo's out there, how can they know which one will work. They can't anticipate what the customers will use and design different parts for different combo's.

We're putting DSE front suspension with an 5.3/4l60e into my friend's 65 Mustang. Right off the bat, I will have to either mod the existing crossmember or build something to make it work. To me, that's the joy of car building. Did I expect DSE to come up with something that works, no. On the other hand, we bought DSE LS mounts for the Alumaframe, so I expect the LS will drop right in.

It makes sense that you can't build parts for all applications, but it is highly likely that a DSE frame owner in a camaro is going to use an LS engine and a T56. That's what 99% of the owners here that autocross run. DSE has specific LS motor mounts, it make sense to have a crossmember especially when they know the stock one doesn't work. I know there are more 67-69 owners and that's likely the priority from a business perspective.


Hey Greg, slow down and not be so quick to bash. I was talking about DSE, I even pmd Carl about a possible purchase.....

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by badazz81z28

It makes sense that you can't build parts for all applications, but it is highly likely that a DSE frame owner in a camaro is going to use an LS engine and a T56. That's what 99% of the owners here that autocross run. DSE has specific LS motor mounts, it make sense to have a crossmember especially when they know the stock one doesn't work. I know there are more 67-69 owners and that's likely the priority from a business perspective.


Hey Greg, slow down and not be so quick to bash. I was talking about DSE, I even pmd Carl about a possible purchase.....

I re-read your post several times before deciding to post what I did.... and it still reads to me that you'd called Chassisworks and gotten no help. This is the "communication" I was speaking about... maybe you're not being real clear in what you need and what you have. I'm actually trying to be HELPFUL to you. If we were in the same room it would be easier to discuss. Attitude etc doesn't come thru in typing.

I'll say this as well. On THIS website you'll get way more help when you're positive in your approach to vendors etc.

[badazz81z28]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I re-read your post several times before deciding to post what I did.... and it still reads to me that you'd called Chassisworks and gotten no help. This is the "communication" I was speaking about... maybe you're not being real clear in what you need and what you have. I'm actually trying to be HELPFUL to you. If we were in the same room it would be easier to discuss. Attitude etc doesn't come thru in typing.

I'll say this as well. On THIS website you'll get way more help when you're positive in your approach to vendors etc.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. If you and I were talking and having a conversation and I said "yeah, I called them too". Would you think I was talking "about" you?

This thread is already out of control, but come on...you have not tried to help, but in the spirit of things I will ensure that my post can't be twisted and perceive to give the wrong message.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I know its impossible to make everyone happy all of the time but at least give them a hint.