Better Grow a Mullet!

[GregWeld]

I'm confused --- which car of yours did Scott Mock AKA Coolwelder62 completely screw up??? I read with extreme disappointment -- your post -- with pics included ... about the piss poor work done on your car. I've not seen such poor welding in a long time except from some complete newbs. WOW. I'd grind 'em all out and start over.

[GregWeld]

Ah never mind -- -- I scrolled back and saw and read the posts. Should have done that before my other post. But on the other hand - it (the post) bump TTT (refreshes) the "don't go there!!".

[grendel]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Ah never mind -- -- I scrolled back and saw and read the posts. Should have done that before my other post. But on the other hand - it (the post) bump TTT (refreshes) the "don't go there!!".

Sorry, I missed this while typing my wall of text.

Back to the build:

Anyone know how much the TA quarters bubble out?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by grendel

Sorry, I missed this while typing my wall of text.

Back to the build:

Anyone know how much the TA quarters bubble out?

i'll get you a picture after lunch. not only does it bulge out it has a nice roll at the top to blend in with the camaro quarter.

[grendel]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

i'll get you a picture after lunch. not only does it bulge out it has a nice roll at the top to blend in with the camaro quarter.

and I can probably use factory flares to get better tire coverage.

I have to admit, I like this:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by grendel

Sorry, I missed this while typing my wall of text.

Back to the build:

Anyone know how much the TA quarters bubble out?

The quarter lip is actually the same as far as distance from the peak, the opening is also higher. But the bulge above the wheel arch is bigger.

[grendel]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

The quarter lip is actually the same as far as distance from the peak, the opening is also higher. But the bulge above the wheel arch is bigger.

Sounds like not a lot of gain, if I understand you correctly?

Edit to add: Maybe some measurements I could compare to mine, please?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by grendel

Sounds like not a lot of gain, if I understand you correctly?

It can be depending on how you go about it. You can add up to 2" of extra room with placement.

[grendel]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

It can be depending on how you go about it. You can add up to 2" of extra room with placement.

I edited my post, Vince. Can you pull some measurements on the 2" from some common point, like the body crease?

[grendel]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I'm confused --- which car of yours did Scott Mock AKA Coolwelder62 completely screw up??? I read with extreme disappointment -- your post -- with pics included ... about the piss poor work done on your car. I've not seen such poor welding in a long time except from some complete newbs. WOW. I'd grind 'em all out and start over.

It's the passenger quarter on this car in this thread. As far as I can tell, he didn't brace anything when he cut the car apart. It looks like the roof slipped down and instead of pushing the roof back, he cut the lip off the outer wheel tub and boogered/burned through it on the lower corners, but no welds any where else. The funny thing, he sent me pictures of something else... once I knew to look there (it's not the focus of the shot), I could see this work in that pic by blowing it up. I didn't see it at the time, so no view of work until I could actually pull the IRS down and see what happened. Those pics were sent in Dec... I picked the car up months later.

I will brace it and cut it out, as soon as an event happens. As I said, it's the quarter and a bunch of small things, that can all be corrected, but should not have to be for the money/time spent. The funny thing is, the driver's side quarter is perfect so I know he knows how it needed to be done right.

There are other things, I think - Like doing the quarters before the IRS. I would've installed the IRS first, considering that either the IRS needed to be narrowed (correctly) or it needed to be wide bodied via the quarters/wheel tubs he installed. All four Ride Tech coils are destroyed by rubbing on control arms and sway bars he installed. Rims he specified hit the shocks he installed.

When I sent him the DSE adjustable links, he contacted DSE who told him he could narrow it 1.25" a side by turning the link all the way in. That is also what they told me and why I sent them. He turned an additional .75" off the links, which according to his friends at DSE is dangerous. I thought he knew what he was doing (a professional) so I gave the go ahead to narrowing. He didn't tell me what DSE said, as the "Professional" I would have called my customer and said the manufacturer doesn't support what you want me to do, you sure you want me to do this? Instead, I came back to cut parts and full liability, with him telling me I said it was ok. I accept that, as I wasn't clear. Still cost another $2400.00. So we're back out with all new manufacturer blessed parts... bought new GM upper control arms to replace the cut and welded upper he did and all new DSE links.

As he said, it will all "take some tuning", but this car was supposed to be ready for paint and racing this season. As his son said to me on Facebook, this is hot rodding. Funny thing, I don't call 25K in parts and labor hot rodding... Always thought that an installation was supposed to work within the system it was installed in. Like the quarters or the IRS.

1 step forward, 6 steps back.

So far, he's radio silent (on all the forums we're both on) and kept the $1K due to me for the motor/trans/sub frame he told me he sold.

Anyhow, other than a certain event, this is all behind me. It will get done right. I wanted to jettison the project, but my kids like it too much. I am happy to answer any questions, but I am not thinking about how/why he did what he did, just that I need to fix it and build an awesome racer.