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Old 01-01-2017, 05:09 PM
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Mule was 1021 at the flywheel.



AH --- MY BAD THEN -- but still --- you'd think with all that hardware it would have made more.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:18 PM
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They did say that the tune was "conservative." Surely they do not want to grenade the thing during the first round of glory tests . . .

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Old 01-02-2017, 12:43 PM
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They did say that the tune was "conservative." Surely they do not want to grenade the thing during the first round of glory tests . . .

Yes, I just called you Shirley.



Think about HellFire - makes 950HP - drives across country multiple times per year - gets tracked - and generally gets the crap driven out of it..... and I hear the new build will be 1000+....... So my point was more that there is an awful lot going on here for the result.... when 1000HP these days is pretty "easy".... and on PUMP gas not E85.

I love the car and the build -- please don't misread what I'm saying. The car is bad ass 100%. I just was expecting 1750 +
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I don't think you are gaining any efficiency by compound boosting it in this application, so the extra complexity is more for show than go - What I mean is I think they would have put up the same number with only turbos and the same boost. Heck, maybe more. Generally the compound boosting is to allow the positive displacement charger to fill in the bottom end before the turbos are full flow.

I think I had a similar reaction to you, but more because the chart showed they were using 27 psi to make the power. That's a crap load of boost, my rough numbers show that the base motor is making less than 400whp without boost. But again that could be the tune and lots of other things.

But agreed, this is a totally cool car nothing negative to say about it except I think the compound deal is more for show, it would probably be lighter and make just as much power with turbos only.

Always curious how the CF brakes will work in the real world without ABS (or did I miss that part ?). According to Clill himself that can be a dicey proposition.
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:28 PM
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I don't think you are gaining any efficiency by compound boosting it in this application, so the extra complexity is more for show than go - What I mean is I think they would have put up the same number with only turbos and the same boost. Heck, maybe more. Generally the compound boosting is to allow the positive displacement charger to fill in the bottom end before the turbos are full flow.

I think I had a similar reaction to you, but more because the chart showed they were using 27 psi to make the power. That's a crap load of boost, my rough numbers show that the base motor is making less than 400whp without boost. But again that could be the tune and lots of other things.

But agreed, this is a totally cool car nothing negative to say about it except I think the compound deal is more for show, it would probably be lighter and make just as much power with turbos only.

Always curious how the CF brakes will work in the real world without ABS (or did I miss that part ?). According to Clill himself that can be a dicey proposition.



I was playing yesterday with the LSX platform ---- Hot Rod magazine built a STOCK LSX 376 -- put on a single 76MM turbo and made 1000 HP.... on pump gas with 19 psi.


Mind you -- that's flywheel....


http://www.hotrod.com/articles/make-...ecision-turbo/


I agree --- super killer build -- love the looks and the color choices and the carbon and all of it.

The carbon brakes on our 911 S Turbo's are better than fantastic!! And according to Mark Steilow -- We might wear out a set of rotors about 30 sets of brake pads from now. Amazing!
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Who else out there remembers when 450hp was usually considered barely streetable?
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Who else out there remembers when 450hp was usually considered barely streetable?
No kidding! My 02' Z06 had 405 flywheel hp, and I thought that I had me a monster...LOL!!
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Stunning, but a track car? I find that hard to believe.
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It sounds great until a car goes off the track ahead of you and you go through a cloud of rocks.

Maybe the owner has deep pockets and doesn't care. Kudos to him!
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:15 AM
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The irony of these big dollar builds is, we all know guys who build them undoubtedly have super, deep pockets and it's just "something" for them to do. But, the car gets shown all around the country for a year or two at all of the big shows, gets major write-ups in all of the magazines, win some awards, then we never hear about the car again. The car hardly ever gets driven recreationally (I assume) because it's always being shown. I mean, I know they"ll drive the snot out of it at autocross events, etc to help with displaying the car and getting the attention it deserves, but then it'll be sold for several thousands or probably hundreds of thousands less than it cost to build.
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