3 Competitours, which one and why?

[XcYZ]

I'm with you on that, Steve. Th full frame is the future of all out pro-touring/g-machine builds.

[Silver69Camaro]

Thanks for the compliment, Steve (and Scott).

That picture shows the "street" type 3-Link...I've got a geometry setup to take care of guys like us who really want to turn corners, and uses all 4130 spherical joints.

Trust me when I say that chassis is stiff.

[Steve Chryssos]

He said stiff

[ProdigyCustoms]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

I'm with you on that, Steve. Th full frame is the future of all out pro-touring/g-machine builds.

I just love it everytime you say that. Only once in my life have I been ahead of my time, LOL! Your going to make me do a full chassis in Lisas car, and I swore I wouldn't. We do have this new pipe bendy thingy though!

[Jr]

I am in the same postion as Tyoneal. Can a fully equipped airride car drive around the streets and track with a similar stance as these cars?

[Steve Chryssos]

Both of those cars have DSE Quadra-Links and upgraded front clips. Mark's car has the added benefits of ATS spindles PLUS Mark's GM engineering and setup voodoo.

Edit: Woops! Looks like you added a third car. Not sure what suspension is under Jonny's car--ca;t speak for it.

The answer--much to the dismay of many--is: Yes, uh-huh, mm-hmm, affirmative. Yup. So sorry. Saw it with my own eyes. Lots of people saw it. We were all surprised. And the A-body stuff looks to work even better than the F-body stuff.

[Jr]

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

Edit: Woops! Looks like you added a third car. Not sure what suspension is under Jonny's car--ca;t speak for it.

Steve,
Jonny's car has a dse quad-link and wd front sub. I love how these cars sit, but the adjustability of the air system would be nice. I have been doing research on these cars for a long time. Decisions...

Originally Posted by streetfyter68

The answer--much to the dismay of many--is: Yes, uh-huh, mm-hmm, affirmative. Yup. So sorry. Saw it with my own eyes. Lots of people saw it. We were all surprised. And the A-body stuff looks to work even better than the F-body stuff.

Did you take your daily meds yet? j/k

The answer that I have come up with: Only in a perfect world will I get the "perfect stance"

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by Silver69Camaro

Thanks for the compliment, Steve (and Scott).

That picture shows the "street" type 3-Link...I've got a geometry setup to take care of guys like us who really want to turn corners, and uses all 4130 spherical joints.

Trust me when I say that chassis is stiff.

What would go beyond that and were can someone see one?

tyoneal

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

Correct. For a multi-purpose street car, you probably need a three sided coin. Better yet, roll the dice: Six sides times two--there's a lot of good choices.

If it helps, fly out to Long Island and I'll take you for a drive in a variety of cars with very different suspension setups. With regards to actual roadholding for a street car, it's a coin toss. They all work well because--in reality--the cars are not being pushed very hard 90% of the time.

Swing the pendulum to one extreme (race) or the other (comfort/show) and I'll give you a differet answer. But for a "does everything well" street car, the biggest difference that I have experienced comes from comparing front steer "rack" cars to rear steer "box" cars. And the link rear suspensions ride way nicer than leaf springs.

If you have narrowed it down to three choices that all spin your wheels, spend time weighing the secondary considerations that Scott outlined such as installation difficulty, exhaust packaging, price, etc.

If I could wave a magic wand (mine's broken), I'd order me up a Art Morrison Max-G 3 Link full frame kit. But that's just me. I already have a nicely sorted aftermarket front clip. I want to take things to a whole other level with a channeled body thru frame exhaust and all. I suddenly have the urge to cut the floor and chassis our of a perfectly good, fully functional car.

It's delicious!

Is there such a thing as a,"Art Morrison Max-G 3 Link full frame kit"? I saw 4 link but NO 3 link. Is thi a new product??

tyoneal

[71Nova]

Yes it is brand new with the 3 link. I don't think is is all the way released yet, but should be soon. It looks like the ultimate setup to me, followed by lateral d 3 link, then DSE. Just my opinion. I also like that the lat d setup's uper bar mounts to a new square tube crossmember instead of to the floor under the rear seat. I have not heard of anyone having a problem with the DSE mount though. I do not know enough about the unique performance/foose setup to comment on it, but it might be good as well. Lat d seems to be a bit pricy compared to DSE. Lateral D includes the housing, but dse includes the coilovers for less than the lateral d without coilovers. Also with the DSE setup you can easely use your back seat.