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[slow4dr]

I would love to help out any way I can, turbo selection, or to help get past the smog Nazi's. After all Gale does have a street legal Dakota with a 800HP diesel in it.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by slow4dr

I would love to help out any way I can, turbo selection, or to help get past the smog Nazi's. After all Gale does have a street legal Dakota with a 800HP diesel in it.

We may have to talk in a bit! I'd love to do it. I do my own tuning on the truck, and I know I can pass the tailpipe portion. The correct turbo would be awesome.

Jody

[slow4dr]

What is the most HP anyone has made with a factory block?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by slow4dr

What is the most HP anyone has made with a factory block?

There's been a few over 800 rwhp. I think the block will take more than that, the limit being getting the truck to hook. I know a few of these guys run nitrous as well and are making 900 to nearly 1000 rwtq with the 331 cid engine.

They all seem to use the factory crank which is supposed to be good for 1200+ HP. I also have Crower billet max-lite rods, custom CP blower pistons with Swain Tech coating, etc. Mine is made for big power but I'm at about 600 rwhp currently on 91 octane. That is with 100% stock exhaust due to noise and that this is a daily driver not a race car. I am installing a full exhaust today just to dyno and figure out how much I'm giving up power and torque wise. Then if it's significant like I think it is I'll try to quiet the exhaust.

I'm at 20 psi (street) with the KB blower.

Jody

[jonny51]

Jody or Jason,what is the deal with smog,is it the visual part?I can't see the roots blower running any cleaner than the turbos.Then again what do I know.

[camcojb]

It's not a tailpipe issue Jonny. It's California's fixation with not allowing any visual mods either without an exemption order number on the part or a trip to a referee. I think if it passes at the pipe the hood doesn't even get opened, after all we are only concerned with the pollutants, right?

For example, you cannot move the location of the cats, or their number. My truck comes with 4 cats and to keep them in their factory location will be virtually impossible with a single turbo. If I re-locate them at all, even though I keep all of them it is illegal. That plus a turbo sitting where a blower came from the factory will cause "issues" with the visual portion. There may be a way around it hopefully. I have NO problem keeping all the smog equipment intact and functioning. Just give me a bit of leeway to package the parts.

Jody

[jonny51]

Yeah that is what I thought.That has to be one of the biggest BS law's out there(well maybe not).Even if you improve emmisions its still illegal if it does not pass visual.

[slow4dr]

Originally Posted by camcojb

There's been a few over 800 rwhp. I think the block will take more than that, the limit being getting the truck to hook. I know a few of these guys run nitrous as well and are making 900 to nearly 1000 rwtq with the 331 cid engine.

They all seem to use the factory crank which is supposed to be good for 1200+ HP. I also have Crower billet max-lite rods, custom CP blower pistons with Swain Tech coating, etc. Mine is made for big power but I'm at about 600 rwhp currently on 91 octane. That is with 100% stock exhaust due to noise and that this is a daily driver not a race car. I am installing a full exhaust today just to dyno and figure out how much I'm giving up power and torque wise. Then if it's significant like I think it is I'll try to quiet the exhaust.

I'm at 20 psi (street) with the KB blower.

Jody

Maybe we should take bets on how much you will gain by changing the exhaust. It is good to hear the block is that strong. I think a hybrid GT42R would be suffice for 1000RWHP and full spool by 3000 rpm.

Originally Posted by camcojb

It's not a tailpipe issue Jonny. It's California's fixation with not allowing any visual mods either without an exemption order number on the part or a trip to a referee. I think if it passes at the pipe the hood doesn't even get opened, after all we are only concerned with the pollutants, right?

For example, you cannot move the location of the cats, or their number. My truck comes with 4 cats and to keep them in their factory location will be virtually impossible with a single turbo. If I re-locate them at all, even though I keep all of them it is illegal. That plus a turbo sitting where a blower came from the factory will cause "issues" with the visual portion. There may be a way around it hopefully. I have NO problem keeping all the smog equipment intact and functioning. Just give me a bit of leeway to package the parts.
Jody

Hopefully Arnie will be able to influence some changes.