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Old 05-27-2007, 09:29 AM
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The Ecotec is a over engineered GM motor

i will have to find the read up on it by GM performance boys getting over 1200 HP out of it and with minor mods can push 500 HP

Very bad ass
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:27 AM
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Sometimes we are so damn funny and picky. We don't want our Porterhouse steaks to touch our Veggies. Hahaha. Quit trippin about it. I'll admit I'm on the fence about this one, but if we WERE mindless robots we'd all be pushing 14" wheels with crappy treaded tires, we'd be able to reach our hand out the window and almost swipe the ground from so much body roll and everybody's interior/exterior would REALLY show what 40 years of natural history will do to a machine. 99% of us like modified cars/trucks. I damn sure don't want to see 1,000,000 copies of that same thing.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:13 PM
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Although this isn't what I would do, I'm perfectly OK with it. This hobby is all about experimentation and individual expression, that's what makes it fun.

Don't forget, the whole pro-touring thing was essentially inspired by European car standards of balanced performance. The PT movement in the early days was widely derided as a sissy, non-American trend in muscle cars - Pro Street was in. And putting 16 or 17 inch wheels with those rubber band tires on a piece of premium American muscle - just like those ricer cars! How disgusting!

I'm building a '69 right now, with LS7, T-56, DSE front clip and QuadraLink, Baer 6-pistons. There might be 50 or more people in the country right now building cars to those same exact specs. That doesn't bother me - the whole point of this build for me is to use well-sorted, proven combos because I want to drive and track it, not fuss with it. But if I was looking to push the boundaries, what would have been a bleeding edge combo 3 years ago is common today ...
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:24 AM
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Couple things...

First, I am a new member here. Great site! Been viewing it for a long time and finally decided to join.

Secondly, I am one of the head moderators at Supraforums.com, and the shop that built the Camaro in question posted the photos over there. The car received the same mixed reviews that it did here. I am not too much of a fan of the car. I can certainly appreciate the time and effort involved in the build, but a Camaro that doesn't sound like a Camaro just isn't my cup of tea.

Lastly, in regards to high-horsepower Supras, while the power curve isn't exactly a mirror image of a Viper, it is most definitely useable. With so many improved turbos using ball-bearing technology, EFI systems with anti-lag, two-steps, transbrakes, etc., many well-built 2JZ cars are leaving the line hard under boost. Plenty of 10, 9, and even 8-second street-driven Supras running around on the stock IRS putting the hurt on trailer-queen V8 cars. Turbo lag is overrated---if a Supra with a large turbo can't get off the line easily, either the driver can't drive or he isn't using the right equipment.

Personally, I sold a 10-second street-driven Vortech-supercharged F-body to purchase my Supra. It is my first import, and pretty much the only import I would consider building in to a high-horsepower monster. The rest of my fleet is all V8 domestic iron. The Supra is definitely my favorite car---handling, braking, comfort, power, uber-reliability and sexy looks make the choice easy. Hard to beat an overbuilt inline-6 that will handle over 800hp on stock internals.

Chevy V8 in to a Datsun 240Z? Sure! That is an upgrade.
Supra I6 in to a 1st gen Camaro? Meh... Not for me.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:18 AM
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Welcome to the site.

I have mixed feelings about it, too, but I know it probably goes like a bastard. I'd need a ride in it to make a fully informed decision on whether it's cool or not.

Kudos for thinking outside the box. Fresh ideas are (generally) a good thing.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:48 AM
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I agree!

Oh, and just before anyone asks, my current pro-touring project is a FFR Cobra replica. 427" EFI small-block Ford, TKO600 trans, modern interior with stereo and (gasp) air conditioning, 19's at all corners sitting on Griggs suspension. Should turn out pretty sweet. Always wanted a scary-ass roadster deathtrap.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:35 AM
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man i hate foreign motors in american cars. I think a turbo ecotec would be way cooler than a supra motor. who owns this thing. the kind of guy i would imagine would be driving this thing is some ricer guy who jumps on the muscle car bandwagon.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:21 AM
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the kind of guy i would imagine would be driving this thing is some ricer guy who jumps on the muscle car bandwagon.
Please tell me you are not referring to Supras as "rice", and just generalizing on the guy who would do this swap. Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:54 AM
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Link to the builder/owner website:

http://www.evsmotors.com/home.html
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:33 PM
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man i hate the muscle car bandwagon.
Hahahaha, the bandwagon. I guess we aren't allowed to like domestics AND imports. Better not drive a 4 cylinder but build an 8 cylinder? Blah to you sir! Double Blah!
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