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Old 07-11-2007, 10:44 AM
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Wow tell us how you really feel. Way to stay on topic
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:44 AM
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um..

minus the emo post a page back..

i think it will go up.. so get it while you can.. or the cost for them to make it may go up to the point the profit might be too low to make them anymore..

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Old 07-11-2007, 01:12 PM
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Ive touched on this subject before! about DSE, Sure they are a GOOD company but like i have alwasy said wayyy over priced in a market that makes products similiar and even nicer in my book, but about there frames no way i would take one over a morrison frame and not to mention the total cost unit is even nicer yet for a fraction of the money, but for 6K+ come on
and shure there a hydro formed peice and all but really how many people are going to abuse there cars to the point they would a frame of this magnitude, Personally just dosent make since but shure theres always people out there that will want whats new first and money is no object. And it is great theres options like these frames out there but not really necessary for most builds a frame this extrme or most of all this expensive!
What do you think the price differnces between the AME frame and DSE frame?

And why exactly to you think the AME frame is "nicer?"
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:46 PM
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Ive touched on this subject before! about DSE, Sure they are a GOOD company but like i have alwasy said wayyy over priced in a market that makes products similiar and even nicer in my book, but about there frames no way i would take one over a morrison frame and not to mention the total cost unit is even nicer yet for a fraction of the money, but for 6K+ come on
and shure there a hydro formed peice and all but really how many people are going to abuse there cars to the point they would a frame of this magnitude, Personally just dosent make since but shure theres always people out there that will want whats new first and money is no object. And it is great theres options like these frames out there but not really necessary for most builds a frame this extrme or most of all this expensive!
I think Efi69 sums it up pretty good. There are plenty of people out there that love to abuse their cars, and I do believe this piece can take the abuse.
I've seen it done lap after lap. Just be careful of carving corners with any of those street rod type subs out there.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:53 PM
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To the contrary, many manufacturers are giving up a little profit in an effort to HOLD prices. But that can't last forever.
Too bad the oil industry can't give up a "little" profit to HOLD prices. They have record profits every quarter!
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:37 PM
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Ive touched on this subject before! about DSE, Sure they are a GOOD company but like i have alwasy said wayyy over priced in a market that makes products similiar and even nicer in my book, but about there frames no way i would take one over a morrison frame and not to mention the total cost unit is even nicer yet for a fraction of the money, but for 6K+ come on
and shure there a hydro formed peice and all but really how many people are going to abuse there cars to the point they would a frame of this magnitude, Personally just dosent make since but shure theres always people out there that will want whats new first and money is no object. And it is great theres options like these frames out there but not really necessary for most builds a frame this extrme or most of all this expensive!
It's far from over priced, and it's one of if not the best front sub out. The TCI you mentioned is near the bottom of the list. A complete Art Morrison which is another great frame is close to the same price as the DSE when it's complete. And yes, we do abuse our cars. If you cannot afford it, don't buy it, but don't bash it because you can't afford it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:43 PM
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It's far from over priced, and it's one of if not the best front sub out. The TCI you mentioned is near the bottom of the list. A complete Art Morrison which is another great frame is close to the same price as the DSE when it's complete. And yes, we do abuse our cars. If you cannot afford it, don't buy it, but don't bash it because you can't afford it.

Ya what he said. I havent seen the DSE in person but looks way cool as for the TCI I have seen it in person and was not very impressed with what I saw, looks like Mustang II stuff. I'm not bashing TCI just stating that it's not in the same zip code as the DSE frame. And isn't the TCI frame like $4000.00 or $4500.00???
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Efi69Cam]All things considered the price for it is not all that bad. If you are starting at scratch and building an LS1 car, that frame puts you way ahead in terms of money and bother.

To start, it clears the stock AC compressor. QUOTE]

this is not true, stock compressor wont work !!!!
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:36 PM
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Too bad the oil industry can't give up a "little" profit to HOLD prices. They have record profits every quarter!
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ZZ3ElCamino:

Don't give too much credence, to what you here in the Media about their record profits. They are playing a game with the number and how they state the numbers.

For instance:

Exxon and Mobil merged to form one company. Both of those businesses were huge before they merged, so when you combine the sales of both and/or the profit, it will almost ALWAYS be a "Record".

If you will review the records that the SEC requires to be exposed, you will find that:

1. Yes Record Profits, but
2. Net Profits are only 10.2% of sales

Damn few companies you do business on a daily basis will have profit margins that low. Home builders run 30-50%. Restaurants profits are a bit smaller depending on which segment of the market they service. McDonalds is a Volume supplier with smaller margins, while Ruth's Chris Steaks will have higher margins.

If you invest in the market, you can get investments that are safe, AND, you don't have to do anything more that collect a check. They can pay you 8-12%.

10.2% is NOT an excessive Margin at all. However the A$$holes in the Media do their very best to demonize all large corporations by quoting just the Dollar amount of profits without putting it in perspective with the size of their total sales.

The media is there to sell news. The bigger the news, the bigger their audience/profit. (If it bleeds, it Leads)

Don't let them get your panties in a wad. Much of what they report is pretty biased.

Does this make sense?

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Old 07-12-2007, 08:15 PM
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I get what you are saying i all ways look at the % not the dollar, BUT10.2% of billons and billons is still alots of cashola . didn't the CEO of Exxon/Mobil make like $400 Millon last year??? I think I read it's like $17000.00 per hour!!!
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