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Old 01-09-2009, 09:37 PM
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Sorry, I'm just not buying into increasing hp by adding ground conductor ampacity.
Buying it or not, I'm not selling,lol, but I know that, the shorter the ground wire on any equipment,the better
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:18 PM
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Just like an exhaust doesn't *give* you horsepower. It lets the engine breath and be more efficient. I agree you can't have too many grounds except cluttering stuff up if the installer is too obnoxious! Good grounds let the battery's voltage make it to the components. Ignitions seem power hungry so I would agree that if the ignition has no obstacles or weak or insufficient voltage, it can do it's job properly and you get the full potential.

On another note, my dad owns and runs a dyno. You should do more than one baseline pull. The first one kinda clears things out and the second one is closer to accurate. Generally within a couple of hp more, but not much. This is more so on carb engines. I just don't want that "phenomenon" to cause confusion.

Also, that tornado gimmick for intake tubes, it says in conjunction with a K&N filter, it has gains. Why does it need a K&N to do it's job? Why stop there? Why not continue with custom fabbed headers and state of the art exhaust system and then claim even more hp?
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:31 AM
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A 6" or 6' conductor makes no difference.

Look, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but I'm an Electronic Tech and I've been dealing with this stuff on a daily basis for nearly 20 years. I call complete BS on this unless someone can explain specific ground path ampacity deficiencies on the car/application in question. I'm not talking about adding amplifiers and HID headlights and such, I mean the engine performance side of it and how they "claim" they picked up 3-5hp on a chassis dyno. I'm not buying their story.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:41 AM
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if you must know, and I'm 100% serious, what the guy was telling you does hold some truth, you will increase horsepower,but not anywhere near 20-30hp, more like 2-5hp, some cars shown to increase power by nearly 5 hp at the wheels,I believe it was 350z, there was an article on that subject few years ago,I don't remember which magazine,but they dynoed the car before and after the install of the ground wire kit, not sure how well it would improve if any on carburated cars,but it does work on fuel injected cars
Oh well he read it is a magazine so it must be true.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:55 AM
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Unless they were tested in identical conditions a 2-5 horsepower difference could be a number of things. Air temp, humidity, fluid temps, dyno variance, and the list goes on forever.
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No offense, but why are you discussing anything with him?

Go in, get part, leave.
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Old 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM
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A 6" or 6' conductor makes no difference.

Add another 31 years under my belt Scott--and I totally agree! Vegas69 is on top of the real difference--jim
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Oh well he read it is a magazine so it must be true.
So I take it all the Truckin,Hot Rodding,Classic Trucking and Hot Rod Ironworks Speed & Kustom has been featured in is all bunch of BS
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Rodger--I think u touched a nerve
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No offense, but why are you discussing anything with him?

Go in, get part, leave.
I was checking out and he was at the register and started talking to me.

Should I be a complete ass and say "Sorry! Can't talk to you! You work at Autozone! You know absolutley ZILCh about cars! Have a nice day!

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