ultimate pro touring car discussion?

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by Doug Cooper

The pedals are set up with the same spacing as a porsche turbo, NOW! the hump in the floor board is still there... that's the turn of the exhaust into the tunnel so nothing hangs below the floor board... for Alan to get the car as low as it is [48'' to the top of the roof] and still have 5 to 6 inches of ground clearance there has to be some compromises made in some areas.

No, I've never weighed it...everything is there that an original Hemi cuda had plus 6 speed trans axle, cage, a/c pwr windows, power steering, N2O, on board fire system, big wheels and tires, dynamat, etc... but it does have an aluminum block and heads and there is a bunch of carbon fiber...

Doug, nice to see this is added to your collection, truly a fine piece of machinery. My question is what actual pieces are carbon in lieu of steel/aluminum and I thought the car was at 49 to the roof top (I Maybe wrong) New pedal setup is definitely for the better on driving comfort, nice touch. Most likely the more you dive it the more you will change things to fit your driving styles. As they say there never complete.

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by preston

Boy does this thread speak to me. From my first project to my current project I have never been happy with the NVH and driveability of my creations. On a sunny afternoon, windows down, finding a few spots to hit it while cruising around they are the best - but cold foggy morning with traffic trying to drive it to work for "fun", frankly, they kind of sucked. Dyanamat, quiet exhausts, FI, poly rod ends instead of hard rod ends, hell they still always feel very rough. Of course my daily driver is a '92 Cadillac with top to bottom dynamatting and thousands of dollars of stereo equipment so maybe they pale in comparison. But whenever I think of taking my hot car somewhere I think, "Or, I could not have the stress and ride in roomy leather clad climate conditioned comfort to audiophile quality sounds in total anonymity".

Anyway, having built 3 tube chassis cars now and spent hours of time dreaming of the "ultimate street muscle road race car" I have to say that the only thing that makes sense is channeling something over a C5/C6/Z06 frame and drivetrain. The advantages of a custom tube frame are really only for body fitment at this point, and you'll never beat the weight distribution of the rear transaxle not to mention IRS. So that thought has kind of taken the winds out of my "pro touring" sails. Because at that point, other than the fact that they're as common as belly buttons, why not just gain the aero and integration advantages of driving a vette in the first place ?
Its too late for me I spent all my money building my own cars.

A lot of times I wished I'd just used my shifter kart for track thrills, and built more of a true (high power) slo-tour car with a real back seat and no 7" wide fender flares !

Always wanted to do a low to the ground full frame RWD '68 El Dorado, in black of course.

My favorite pro-tour car is the G-force Cuda, but I don't think there is anything "tour" about that car, the exhaust must be hellaciously loud, fuel mileage truly non-existent, and the pedal placement/floor pan looks like a horrendous compromise. But I just lose all ability to speak or think when I see it or review its spec sheet.

Just some thoughts from another been there done that burnt out builder.

Heres a 70 1/2 TA grafted unto a complete stock 2007 corvette chassis, engine, and pretty much all the accessories right down to the air bags. Seen this creation coming together but his site lacks the build outline.

http://www.salvaggioautodesign.com/
Click on creations.

[legend]

anyone got any more info on the salvaggio R/T?

http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/1330

[MarkM66]

Originally Posted by legend

anyone got any more info on the salvaggio R/T?

http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/1330

Here's some;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Doug Cooper]

Originally Posted by nvr2fst

Doug, nice to see this is added to your collection, truly a fine piece of machinery. My question is what actual pieces are carbon in lieu of steel/aluminum and I thought the car was at 49 to the roof top (I Maybe wrong) New pedal setup is definitely for the better on driving comfort, nice touch. Most likely the more you dive it the more you will change things to fit your driving styles. As they say there never complete.

the entire nose is carbon fiber... 49 48 47? who cares LOL... Its low!

[legend]

Originally Posted by MarkM66

Here's some;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks Mark, looks like a 70s jaguar based IRS in there, love the bodywork

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by legend

Thanks Mark, looks like a 70s jaguar based IRS in there, love the bodywork

Its the stock based Heidts superide IRS.
Like the idea of Dave Salvaggio shortening the length of the car. But I feel the car sits too high. The Charger being built at the Roadster Shop will be the one to set the bar on all Chargers.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by nvr2fst

Heres a 70 1/2 TA grafted unto a complete stock 2007 corvette chassis, engine, and pretty much all the accessories right down to the air bags. Seen this creation coming together but his site lacks the build outline.

http://www.salvaggioautodesign.com/
Click on creations.

Very cool, certainly would be interesting to see build pics and feedback on how well it performs on the street and/or track.

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by compos mentis

Very cool, certainly would be interesting to see build pics and feedback on how well it performs on the street and/or track.

I dont think you'll find build photos. Dave is pretty low key on public build postings. But Im sure the customer has 100s. This car may have gone to a client overseas.

[legend]

the fixed length driveshaft as top link is in principle the old XJ6 setup, works ok, but camber control is poor, compared to a full double wishbone setup and they used to struggle when racing these setups.

seems odd to go to all the bother to install a less than ideal setup as an upgrade, whereas a C6 rear end Should handle better