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Old 06-08-2008, 12:48 PM
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Hi guys! I have always loved how the sway bar is incorporated into the frame instead of just bolting to the frame. I hope that makes sence. Here is a pic of what i am talking about and hopefully someone can explain how it is done. I thought it might be a splined swaybar inside a shaft with some bearings and snap rings so it can't go side to side. Any comments would be much appreciated.

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That is same system as DSE uses in its frames. Regular speedway splined swaybar with greaseble nylon bushings. Aluminium collar rings keep the bar centered and steel or aluminium arms bolts to the splined ends.

I have mine still in pieces - do you want me to take pics to clear it up ?


Bars : http://www.1speedway.com/standard_swaybars.htm

Arms,collar rings and bushings: http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybar_Arms.htm
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you need to use roller bearings on end of tube, lefthander or other has them, i will find out where to get them, local circle track chassis guy use's them on his
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That is same system as DSE uses in its frames. Regular speedway splined swaybar with greaseble nylon bushings. Aluminium collar rings keep the bar centered and steel or aluminium arms bolts to the splined ends.

I have mine still in pieces - do you want me to take pics to clear it up ?


Bars : http://www.1speedway.com/standard_swaybars.htm

Arms,collar rings and bushings: http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybar_Arms.htm
If it isn't a huge hassle I would really appreciate some pics. What ever you guys have to help me understand exactly what is needed and maybe some tips would be VERY much appreciated. Thanks alot guys and i will check out those links
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you need to use roller bearings on end of tube, lefthander or other has them, i will find out where to get them, local circle track chassis guy use's them on his
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Any info on what and where to find the parts would be much appreciated. Thanks alot
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look up Speedway Motors they have a few kits that will work for this, you have to build the sway bar you buy into the frame, its really easy and agree it looks sick.
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look up Speedway Motors they have a few kits that will work for this, you have to build the sway bar you buy into the frame, its really easy and agree it looks sick.
I just checked speedway motors and i found this kit. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/4053...sway%20bar It is a universal one but is the style i am looking for. I thought you should always use a splined sway bar. Is that true? I was trying to figure out what those plastic looking things are. Thanks for you help
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I just talked to Speedway engineering and they gave me some useful info. I thought i would share since you guys are helping me out. They recommended me using nylon busings (non greasable) part # 605-125. Those nylon bushings go into a 1 3/4" piece of .065 tubing. I can use a thicker piece of tubing .083 and so on. I would just have to bore it out. The nylon bushings are designed to use an 1 1/4" sway bar and the sway bar arms, if designed proper, will hold the sway bar centered. The sway bar arms are 3/4" thick.

A questions for you guys. Instead of using standard sway bar arms do you know of a company or someone who makes the sytle of sway bar arms in the picture above.

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I was thinking of the same thing on the back of my Chevelle. I can't get it to run through the actual frame becasue I wouldn't be able to install or remove the bar as the body covers the frame. My idea was to use the tube design as a carrier and fab some brackets on eather end to bolt onto my coilover crossmember.

I kept looking for Delrin bushings but couldn't find any. Didn't realize that they were nylon. Speedway Engineering has a large assortment of solid and hollow bars in deiiferent lenghts and rates.

Here is a shot of my coilover crossmember. Thats the old 10 bolt. I have a new moser going in there. In order to get the shocks enough travel I had to into the trunk a few inches. I figured I would hang the swaybar tube off the crossmember...
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A questions for you guys. Instead of using standard sway bar arms do you know of a company or someone who makes the sytle of sway bar arms in the picture above.

Thanks alot
Looks like a fabricated piece to me. Steel arm welded to a cap on the end of the sway bar.

I'm not sure how the cap is attached to the arm. Maybe just some sort of set screw.
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