Full sus and brake set up for 69 camaro?

[Gwinner]

Hi everyone,

I'm a full newbie on here so please forgive my lack of knowledge. I'm the proud new owner of a 69 camaro and I'm looking to do a full suspension- brake upgrade on my car. Everything under the car is currently stock with the disk front, drum rear set up. I'm open for ideas, basically I'm looking to improve the handling and braking of the car as well as achieve the pro touring look. I won't be taking it to the track, I just want something fun to drive that works well and doesn't break the bank. I'm also fairly new to working on cars but would like to do most of the work myself. The less welding etc required the better.

A little info on the car that might need to be considered.. It has a 502 big block, roll cage (plan on cutting this out or at least modifying it), Gas tank and battery mounted in the trunk. I'd like to run 18 in wheels, something like 18.8 front, 18.10 rear?

I've been doing some research online and so far these are the parts I've been looking at, let me know if I'm on the right track or way off. Also feel free to give as much feedback and or other ideas as you've got. I've attached links to the parts I'm considering, hope I did it right. Thanks in advance! ..

Brakes- Wilwood 4 disk muscle kit

Suspension- Hotchkis TVS system

I'd like to run upper and lower control arms I think. Either SpeedTech or Detroit speed?

DSE Speed kit front- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...speed-kts.html

Detroit speed mini-tub kit rear- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...i-tub-kit.html

Shocks? Looks like with the Detroit Speed mini tub they sell Koni shocks to fit

Alright that's all I got for now, let me know what you guys think and thanks again!

- Aaron

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Gwinner

Hi everyone,

I'm a full newbie on here so please forgive my lack of knowledge. I'm the proud new owner of a 69 camaro and I'm looking to do a full suspension- brake upgrade on my car. Everything under the car is currently stock with the disk front, drum rear set up. I'm open for ideas, basically I'm looking to improve the handling and braking of the car as well as achieve the pro touring look. I won't be taking it to the track, I just want something fun to drive that works well and doesn't break the bank. I'm also fairly new to working on cars but would like to do most of the work myself. The less welding etc required the better.

A little info on the car that might need to be considered.. It has a 502 big block, roll cage (plan on cutting this out or at least modifying it), Gas tank and battery mounted in the trunk. I'd like to run 18 in wheels, something like 18.8 front, 18.10 rear?

I've been doing some research online and so far these are the parts I've been looking at, let me know if I'm on the right track or way off. Also feel free to give as much feedback and or other ideas as you've got. I've attached links to the parts I'm considering, hope I did it right. Thanks in advance! ..

Brakes- Wilwood 4 disk muscle kit

Suspension- Hotchkis TVS system

I'd like to run upper and lower control arms I think. Either SpeedTech or Detroit speed?

DSE Speed kit front- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...speed-kts.html

Detroit speed mini-tub kit rear- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...i-tub-kit.html

Shocks? Looks like with the Detroit Speed mini tub they sell Koni shocks to fit

Alright that's all I got for now, let me know what you guys think and thanks again!

- Aaron

DSE shocks are now from afco for the mini tub kits. All choices are good, except I prefer baer brakes over wilwood. Mainly baer uses thicker rotors, and their calipers use OEM camaro or vette pads when it comes time to replace them. Wilwood may have changed some of their designs in their newer kits, but I am not up on Wilwood brake packages.

[Gwinner]

Cool, thanks for the info Mike!

I've been researching some and I'm pretty set on the Speed tech Road assault package for the front. It's adjustable so I'm guessing you can get it lowered about 2" with this kit which is what I'm looking for or do I need drop springs also? I like the DSE package as well but seems like you can't beat the Speedtech on price for the same quality. A similar style package from DSE costs about 1k more I'm finding.

I've been reading a lot about matching your front and rear suspension as far as brand goes for the best quality and it doesn't look like speed tech makes what I'm looking for in the rear "a leaf system". Do you think the Hotchkis 1.5" drop sport leafs would do the job and is there a good shock I should add to that? I may run it lower but 3" might be too much and it looks like you can settle in the middle somewhere with the help of blocks.

I'm wanting to opt out of the mini tub for ease of installation purposes but want to run the Forgeline GA3 wheels 18x8 front and 18x10 rear. It looks like they'll fit.

Still checking out the brakes but the Baers look nice and parts availability is a big plus.

Any word on a quick ratio steering box? I've heard good things but there's a lot out there to choose from.

Thanks guys, really appreciate the help. I'll be sure to post pictures when the project begins, hopefully next week!

Aaron

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Gwinner

Cool, thanks for the info Mike!

I've been researching some and I'm pretty set on the Speed tech Road assault package for the front. It's adjustable so I'm guessing you can get it lowered about 2" with this kit which is what I'm looking for or do I need drop springs also? I like the DSE package as well but seems like you can't beat the Speedtech on price for the same quality. A similar style package from DSE costs about 1k more I'm finding.

I've been reading a lot about matching your front and rear suspension as far as brand goes for the best quality and it doesn't look like speed tech makes what I'm looking for in the rear "a leaf system". Do you think the Hotchkis 1.5" drop sport leafs would do the job and is there a good shock I should add to that? I may run it lower but 3" might be too much and it looks like you can settle in the middle somewhere with the help of blocks.

I'm wanting to opt out of the mini tub for ease of installation purposes but want to run the Forgeline GA3 wheels 18x8 front and 18x10 rear. It looks like they'll fit.

Still checking out the brakes but the Baers look nice and parts availability is a big plus.

Any word on a quick ratio steering box? I've heard good things but there's a lot out there to choose from.

Thanks guys, really appreciate the help. I'll be sure to post pictures when the project begins, hopefully next week!

Aaron

The RA kit base kit uses QA1 which I have never liked ridewise or durability (always leaking). The upgrade shocks from Ridetech are alot better. DSE uses a different upper mount which requires modification to the sub which is where alot of the extra expense is at. Speedtech also has the sub mod available in their Chicane kit. Price becomes closer between the two products. Either is a good choice.

steering box go with either DSE or Lee. Both are the main ones everybody chooses

[Gwinner]

Thanks again, so many options! I think I'm loosing control, I'm even looking at the complete coil over system from ride tech. With maybe the SA shock upgrade. I have a few friends who weld professionally so could get the brackets for the rear four link on there pretty easily. Sounds like I may need a 12 bolt rear end for it though? Mines only a 10, If that's the case I can order one up ad have them weld the brackets on for me! On top of that if you buy the system in December you can save $300 bucks plus free shipping. Hmmm. I think it's time for me to go to bed.

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

..... except I prefer baer brakes over wilwood. Mainly baer uses thicker rotors, and their calipers use OEM camaro or vette pads when it comes time to replace them.

I agree totally. Baer all the way. And from the price in your Wilwood link, you could get Baer brakes for roughly the same price depending on vendor and where you buy.

[Hotchkis]

Originally Posted by Gwinner

Hi everyone,

I'm a full newbie on here so please forgive my lack of knowledge. I'm the proud new owner of a 69 camaro and I'm looking to do a full suspension- brake upgrade on my car. Everything under the car is currently stock with the disk front, drum rear set up. I'm open for ideas, basically I'm looking to improve the handling and braking of the car as well as achieve the pro touring look. I won't be taking it to the track, I just want something fun to drive that works well and doesn't break the bank. I'm also fairly new to working on cars but would like to do most of the work myself. The less welding etc required the better.

A little info on the car that might need to be considered.. It has a 502 big block, roll cage (plan on cutting this out or at least modifying it), Gas tank and battery mounted in the trunk. I'd like to run 18 in wheels, something like 18.8 front, 18.10 rear?

I've been doing some research online and so far these are the parts I've been looking at, let me know if I'm on the right track or way off. Also feel free to give as much feedback and or other ideas as you've got. I've attached links to the parts I'm considering, hope I did it right. Thanks in advance! ..

Brakes- Wilwood 4 disk muscle kit

Suspension- Hotchkis TVS system

I'd like to run upper and lower control arms I think. Either SpeedTech or Detroit speed?

DSE Speed kit front- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...speed-kts.html

Detroit speed mini-tub kit rear- http://www.detroitspeed.com/1967-196...i-tub-kit.html

Shocks? Looks like with the Detroit Speed mini tub they sell Koni shocks to fit

Alright that's all I got for now, let me know what you guys think and thanks again!

- Aaron

Aaron – Welcome to Lateral-G! Do you have pictures of your car and how high it sits right now?

[marolf101x]

Our kit allows you to run any rear end you want. Typically we use a Moser 9-inch, but the brackets can be welded to anything you have (or want to have!)

As many will tell you, you should keep the front and rear from the same manufacturer as the kit is designed to work as a system. If you piece things together it may work, but it has a MUCH higher chance of not working as well as it could.

You will not be disappointed in our kit, especially the shocks. These are built to our specs by Fox Racing Shox, who if you don't know are HUGE in the off road game. The shocks we use share technology with the Fox units under the Ford Raptor F150, which have passed the insane testing required by Ford (well over 100K miles).

Of course I'm a little biased, so please feel free to ask around. You will find Ridetech makes great quality parts and services them with outstanding customer service.