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Old 05-29-2017, 10:18 PM
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Default If you could run a 14-16 inch wheel w/o ANY Sacrifice in handling would you?

To Everyone:

I posted a similar thread at PT.com, but I wanted to try and pick up everyone one this.


If you could run a 15 or 16 inch wheels, and not sacrifice large Disc Brakes and "R" compound tires, handling etc., would you choose that option over these larger "HOOPS"?

I personally would like to have "Pseudo-Period" correct looking wheels/tires on my g-machine. To me the Large wheel often become a glaring reminder they don't fit with the classic car styles.

I don't think I'm alone at all on this, am I?

What are your thoughts?

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Old 05-29-2017, 10:25 PM
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You can get the R compound. The problem is 200 tw street tires and proper suspension geometry with wide tires. With most designs you have to sacrifice scrub radius because you cannot tuck the upper ball joint inside the rim.
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Old 05-29-2017, 10:29 PM
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You can get the R compound. The problem is 200 tw street tires and proper suspension geometry with wide tires. With most designs you have to sacrifice scrub radius because you cannot tuck the upper ball joint inside the rim.
I do understand exactly what you are saying, but if it was possible for no sacrifices would you prefer the smaller period correct looking wheels?

I very interested in your mental "Visual" ideas of what a PT car should look like if it were possible.

I promise this is not a, "Pie in the Sky" question, it is serious.

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Old 05-29-2017, 11:43 PM
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With the condition of today's roads you can't have enough sidewall!
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Old 05-30-2017, 01:14 AM
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16" I think is an ideal wheel for me. The look would be nascar style or trans am but I'd need 11 to 12" wide and 14"front brakes and 14.25"rear. I forget the speedtech extreme subframe offset needed but that's what I would need.
I love the handling that these cars are now capable of but I'm not really into the wheels offered. Nothing against them but for my personal car old school looks better.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:01 AM
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Agreed, I would much prefer a 14" or 15" wheel in a wider offering. I have never been a fan of the thin side wall tires, they just look out of place on our 60"s muscle cars in my opinion.

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Old 05-30-2017, 09:23 AM
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I had this problem, and I went with 17" and old style wheels that are period correct. 315/35-17 and 275/40-17. 17X11 and 17X9.5 wheels.
Not into what ifs... Just do it and move on.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:51 PM
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I had this problem, and I went with 17" and old style wheels that are period correct. 315/35-17 and 275/40-17. 17X11 and 17X9.5 wheels.
Not into what ifs... Just do it and move on.
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Roarvette:

This was part of the, "What If's", until now. This is why I am asking this question to everyone.

I solved this problem, I have a Patent that will be issued in the next few weeks, and am hoping to introduce the product that will allow, "This impossible of the past to be possible moving forward."

The "What/if's" that people have had to accept, I think will no longer be something people have to sacrifice in their car builds.

It IS a real product with a "Utility Patent", so I know it is possible, as the "what if's", were part of the Claims that the Patent was made to solve.

The comments previously mentioned, are exactly the frustrations I have been having with where the wheel industry has gone, and I wanted something different.

I am hoping that many will offer there thoughts about this subject, as a unscientific sampling of the want's and needs of the Pro-Touring/Vintage car after market.

Further, if there are a large number of people who love the big hoops, and that type of look is preferred to them, I would also be very interested in their input and opinions.

Also, if there are issues that I have NOT thought about in the design, the faster I can be made aware of these item(s), the faster and better product I will be able to bring to the Market.

I ask that you and the rest of the people who enjoy these cars will participate in helping me bring a better solution to an issue that been a "pet peeve" of mine for a long time.

I encourage you to add your thoughts, or wants, in a product that does solve this problem.

Thanks, I hope you take the time to read my response back to you..

Sincerely,

Ty O'Neal
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Full size 3 link and custom roll cage
315mm tires on rear, should fit the same on front. Worked to design a more effective shape.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:23 AM
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With the condition of today's roads you can't have enough sidewall!
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I hear you there, the big problem is with the taller side wall, you lose a tremendous amount of handling potential.

That's a terrible thing to sacrifice, when through superior materials, and a well tuned suspension, at least some of the problems with the roads could be moderated.

Thanks for the input.

So you prefer the taller side wall for it's ability to help absorb imperfections in the road surface, not necessarily because you like the look of the Vintage/Taller sidewall.

Is this correct?

Thanks,

Ty O'Neal
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1964 Gulf Liveried, Corvette, "Grand Sport"
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Ty O'Neal
"She Devil" aka. Betty
1969/70 Camaro SS
427 LS3, 600
Keisler Road and Track T-56
Full size 3 link and custom roll cage
315mm tires on rear, should fit the same on front. Worked to design a more effective shape.
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the best available from the 70's and 80's
======================
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:24 AM
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How long until they come to market? What style of wheel is being offered? What "issues" have you addressed to get the brakes to fit? What spindles and steering arms will the wheels clear and at what wheel diameter?
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