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Old 01-24-2010, 01:13 PM
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jake, are you actually splitting the panel and widening the gap, or are you adding a vertical piece and then filling it in?
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:53 PM
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jake, are you actually splitting the panel and widening the gap, or are you adding a vertical piece and then filling it in?
no, a common issue with goodmark trunks is there too small for the hole width wise. the gaps were arounf 7/16ths. we sliced the quarter 1/16th from edge, moved over till we had 3/16ths strong gap and measured, then used shear to shear filler piece that we but tig welded in using silicon bronze. metal finished to 80 grit and body worked.
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so elite, tell us. if you need a deck lid and buy a goodmark one and it has almost 1/2 gaps on each side, how do you make it fit correct? or how about a goodmark hood which commonly has good side gaps but almost always tapered gap on the front against the header panel, one side of middle is good other is wide, what is out of shape then? i guess no aftermarket panel company would make something that out of tolerance? please let us all in on how to adjust quarter panels to make the trunk lid fit.

ps- maybe i should go drag some pics off dse's website, troys website of panel aligment and welding, etc. I forgot they are monkeys as well
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so elite, tell us. if you need a deck lid and buy a goodmark one and it has almost 1/2 gaps on each side, how do you make it fit correct? or how about a goodmark hood which commonly has good side gaps but almost always tapered gap on the front against the header panel, one side of middle is good other is wide, what is out of shape then? i guess no aftermarket panel company would make something that out of tolerance? please let us all in on how to adjust quarter panels to make the trunk lid fit.

Jake you haven't heard anytime a gap is to wide you put the car on the frame machine and tighten her up....you know just pull the rear rails together tap it with a a body hammer, pick it with a PDR tool do some adjusting and thats that....

We weld edges, split panels, anything we have to do to make gaps perfect as long as the panel isnt warped and its metal finished there is no way to tell one way from the other.....

there is NO car that camed from the factory I have ever seen with 3/16 gaps as most of the new OE's have and im gonna say the car with the metal finshed welded gaps blows the car with the metal massaged (non-butchered) technique away panel fit wise...
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:43 PM
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so elite, tell us. if you need a deck lid and buy a goodmark one and it has almost 1/2 gaps on each side, how do you make it fit correct? or how about a goodmark hood which commonly has good side gaps but almost always tapered gap on the front against the header panel, one side of middle is good other is wide, what is out of shape then? i guess no aftermarket panel company would make something that out of tolerance? please let us all in on how to adjust quarter panels to make the trunk lid fit.

ps- maybe i should go drag some pics off dse's website, troys website of panel aligment and welding, etc. I forgot they are monkeys as well

somebody got their panties in a wad? stop buying poor fitting parts and most of your fitting problems will go away.

just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it right.

I'll say it again, any monkey can weld rods to tighten up gaps,but it takes a real craftsman to line and massage panels for perfect fit,

read my previous posts CLOSER and maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from
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I am all good buddy. it obvious you have never done a first gen camaro or old (pre 73) car period. Guess I should just go to gm to buy my deck lids and hoods from now on.
btw- it takes a real metal man to take what oem built and make it better,ie adding metal, blocking over panel gaps etc.
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I am all good buddy. it obvious you have never done a first gen camaro or old (pre 73) car period. Guess I should just go to gm to buy my deck lids and hoods from now on.
FYI, I actually owned a few pre 73 cars,few of them were 64 Impala SS,71 AMC AMX Javelin,both were original cars and all fenders,doors,e.t.c. were fitting nice, with nice gaps, I have unrestored 71 Cuda with pretty good fitting panels,doors open and shut like on a late model import. Hood hinges need some oil ,but for a car that sat for few years,it's no biggie.

if you need good fitting parts, let me know, I can get you a good deal on AMD metal
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somebody got their panties in a wad? stop buying poor fitting parts and most of your fitting problems will go away.

just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it right.

I'll say it again, any monkey can weld rods to tighten up gaps,but it takes a real craftsman to line and massage panels for perfect fit,

read my previous posts CLOSER and maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from

I think you and your 280 posts are out numbered here unfortunalty..... that or you're the only craftsmen out of all the car builders I know... maybe you should have your own tv show... all hail king of the pdr tool panel fit man
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I think you and your 280 posts are out numbered here unfortunalty..... that or you're the only craftsmen out of all the car builders I know... maybe you should have your own tv show... all hail king of the pdr tool panel fit man
LMAO! Just because you have 1000+ posts make you a true craftsman? I have better things to do ithan throw some pointless comments/posts just to bump up the post count,Pat yourself on the back, you've done well,master!

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LMAO! Just because you have 1000+ posts make you a true craftsman? I have better things to do ithan throw some pointless comments/posts just to bump up the post count,Pat yourself on the back, you've done well,master!

I know I irritate some people with truth,but I don't lie

I dont post much actually do a search I have been a member for quite awhile.... Now I just lurk and call BS when I see a someone running there keyboard.... typical arm chair quarter back coming on here with no real back ground or history (3 cars) you have 3 cars with nice fitting panels congrats there metal mastermind.... maybe you should pat yourself on the back....
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