what rear setup to run?

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by XLexusTech

Blake have you done any drag race type R&D? I was considering a four link Bar type suspension. I like what the torque arm offers but was planning on doing some weekend drag racing once and awhile.

Does this suspension work with subframe connectors? Specifically the hotchkis ones?

Any issues with NVH at all? I have heard that some of the TA suspensions tend to transfer alot to the cabin...

Thanks,..!

we have not Drag tested it yet this comming spring i will take it out and try it, but from the brake stop challenges we have done it works well at both ends of the test

Funny i have asked John Hotchkis to send us a set of frame connectors but have not seen them yet there is no reason the Torque arm would not work with any subframe connector.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by 67ragtp

Blake,

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, I went to your web site, and still can't figure out how the torque arm brackets attaches to a 12 bolt housing. I have a 54 inch flange to flange moser 12 bolt with dse leaf perches. Will housings(custom lengths)with all brackets welded on be available through speed tech? How are you setting this up? Any issues with the upper bracket fitting in the area of the mini tub frame cut? can my housing be converted?

Thanks Rich

The 12 bolt has a rear mount that sandwhiches between the rear cover and the housing, on the front there is a billet aluminum clamp that mounts arroiund the pinion casting. Currently we are only able to offer 9" housing that are built by Strange Engineering that include the brackets welded on prior to finishing the housing width. the problem is that strange only had a 12 bolt with the 3rd gen camaro center section so it won't work with our mount. But a 9" is actually a better choice in that the pinion is shorter and lower to allow more clearance between the driveshaft and tunnel as well as the safer housing retained bearings. we ALWAYS use 9" ends on all the rears we build for the safety factor.

[Fitz78ta]

I know this isn't my post, but great info killer69. Not the Hijack, but for an all around setup (street, road course, and drag) would I be better off with a torque arm setup or a 3 link setup for my 2nd gen? We will be building whatever setup we do in house, so fab and ease of install is of no worry to us. Just looking for the best possible all around setup.

I talked with Larry at Prodigy the other day, VERY helpful. He felt that I can't go wrong with a torque arm, but I welcome other insight.

[Blake Foster]

Currently we are working on a Second Gen torque arm set up, the biggest issue is that the second gen is so tight in everydirection compared to the first that it is just a mater of us deciding how "BoltIn" the kit will be, we are looking at different options and way of packaging the system the big issue is ride height, and you have seen the ride height we like and we will be keeping that so stay tuned.

[GrnMchin]

Originally Posted by killer69

Cutting into the rear fram has now been done thousands and thousands of times and i have never seen any ill effects , remember that if you are then also moving the load point from the extreme rear of the frame (even tho it is actually only 1/2 the load) to the center of the car there is less stress on the rear. in the past we have done a "Mini" roll bar that triangulates the upper shock mount to the upper corner of the 1/4 and rear seat,package tray??
The best option is obviously a roll cage if your worried about flex.

Thanks for the info that help explain a ton. Cage on this car is not an option so I have to try to stiffen it up as much w/ out the help of a full cage. I saw the the speed tech set up helps transfer more of the stress through out and the shock support bar should help to add back sum of the support lost. One other question how does the a narrow rear end effect the set up. I have the option of stk width or 2" narrowed rear from stk.

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by Fitz78ta

I know this isn't my post, but great info killer69. Not the Hijack, but for an all around setup (street, road course, and drag) would I be better off with a torque arm setup or a 3 link setup for my 2nd gen? We will be building whatever setup we do in house, so fab and ease of install is of no worry to us. Just looking for the best possible all around setup.

I talked with Larry at Prodigy the other day, VERY helpful. He felt that I can't go wrong with a torque arm, but I welcome other insight.

I would suggest a 3-link. its more adjustable than a torque arm and can have more antisquat if designed correctly. But it will be going through the stock sheetmetal.

[wickdss]

I have a few questions. First how easy is it to access the drive shaft? Can you just unbolt the TQ arm or do you have to remove the TQ arm and the front X member?. I remember on my 99 SS Camaro every time you would remove the TQ arm the pinion would shift up. Will this kit do the same? Also is there room to run an X or H pipe in the exhaust?

Thanks
Troy

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Bryce

I would suggest a 3-link. its more adjustable than a torque arm and can have more antisquat if designed correctly. But it will be going through the stock sheetmetal.

3 link is awesome if you dont want a back seat.
how much anti squat do you want?

just did some quick calculations the anti squat on the Torque arm is 71% 87% 102% in the 3 available mounting locations. if that helps anyone.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by wickdss

I have a few questions. First how easy is it to access the drive shaft? Can you just unbolt the TQ arm or do you have to remove the TQ arm and the front X member?. I remember on my 99 SS Camaro every time you would remove the TQ arm the pinion would shift up. Will this kit do the same? Also is there room to run an X or H pipe in the exhaust?

Thanks
Troy

all i do is remove the rear shocks and let the suspension droop (on the hoist i use a screw jack stand) and you can undo the ubolts and slide the driveshaft out without removing the exhaust even. (depending on your configuration)
i run a X pipe on my Nova you could also configure a H pipe if you wanted

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by killer69

3 link is awesome if you dont want a back seat.
how much anti squat do you want?

Blake,

In a camaro a back seat is not possible with a 3-link or maybe two bucket seats on either side. In my falcon I am building a 3-link to stay in the trunk and not enter the passenger compartment. my A/S range in 50-100% while keeping the LCA horizontal at ride and a minimum IC of 50". For drag racing I can have up to a 150% A/S.

Torque arms are great if you want to keep all the suspension under the car and make it a bolt in.