My customer EXPERIENCE with Driverz Inc.

[XcYZ]

There's a lot of dynamics going on, clearance is your friend. Not only is rubbing a concern when the wheels are straight and at full lock, but also when you have a little wheel in and a have lot of travel - like when entering a driveway. Things can get very tight.

If anyone wants to push the ragged edge of tire/wheel fitment, they better be fully prepared to have a rubs.

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by 70rs

Narrow the rear. (like you told Jon you were going to do in the first place)
Add the rear disc conversion. (again, like you said you were going to do)
Install the wider tire that was suggested in the first place.
Set the ride ht and drive it.
Then look up inside your rear wheel wells ABOVE the factory "flare".
I am willing to bet that the wheels provided, based on Jons experience with these cars, is going to fit just the way it should.

You have not "finished" building your car to the specs you gave Jon that he based his SUGGESTION on.
As far as I can see, Jon did his job. And did it well (as usual).
Now it's your turn. Finish the car and drive it. I think in the end you will be more than happy with the results.
I have dealt with Jon & Justin MANY MANY times. The help they have provided in planning my car, wheel, tire, rear end, suspension and brakes.....that help is priceless to me.
The efforts put forth by Driverzinc and the outstanding level of customer service is second to none in my book.

I do wish you the best in your build. I think that you are overlooking several factors. The wheel well flares and the lack of room above them. The rear not being narrowed yet. The disc brake conversion. And the wider tire suggested.
Once those are dealt with everything you are pointing out will be resolved.

For what it's worth I think your car looks great the way it is.

We will have to agree to disagree on Driverz Inc's customer service, but thank you for the compliments on the car and your suggestions. Stay tuned for future updates!

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

There's a lot of dynamics going on, clearance is your friend. Not only is rubbing a concern when the wheels are straight and at full lock, but also when you have a little wheel in and a have lot of travel - like when entering a driveway. Things can get very tight.

If anyone wants to push the ragged edge of tire/wheel fitment, they better be fully prepared to have a rubs.

Agreed. Scott, I actually wanted to thank you for giving me the opportunity to air my grievances. I think it shows that you care not only about site sponsors but also the members of this site. I really appreciate it.

[NOPANTS68]

I wonder if the diff in this thing is out of a '68 and later. They bolt right in and do have a wider track than earlier cars. It would explain a couple things. It looks like it all fits great IMO, but I would still narrow it that inch like you said you were when you ordered the wheels.

FWIW, I have a '67 A body with a '67 12 bolt under it. I have a pending wheel order with Jon and let him pick all of my backspacing. The guy spent a couple hours with me at a GG show asking all of the right questions, and really made me feel comfortable spending my 5K with him. He gave me the option to go to a 10 inch wheel and a larger tire, but explained it would be tight. After spending countless hours getting 325s barely under my Nova, knowing I'd be rolling around with 4 people in the car, and wanting to hammer on the car- I elected to go with the 9.5s and the 275 tire. This is hot rodding- nobody at GM in 1967 would have ever imagined what we would be doing with these things. Finish it, roll it, forget about it.

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by NOPANTS68

I wonder if the diff in this thing is out of a '68 and later. They bolt right in and do have a wider track than earlier cars. It would explain a couple things. It looks like it all fits great IMO, but I would still narrow it that inch like you said you were when you ordered the wheels.

FWIW, I have a '67 A body with a '67 12 bolt under it. I have a pending wheel order with Jon and let him pick all of my backspacing. The guy spent a couple hours with me at a GG show asking all of the right questions, and really made me feel comfortable spending my 5K with him. He gave me the option to go to a 10 inch wheel and a larger tire, but explained it would be tight. After spending countless hours getting 325s barely under my Nova, knowing I'd be rolling around with 4 people in the car, and wanting to hammer on the car- I elected to go with the 9.5s and the 275 tire. This is hot rodding- nobody at GM in 1967 would have ever imagined what we would be doing with these things. Finish it, roll it, forget about it.

Thanks. Already forgotten!

[70rs]

Originally Posted by jocko124

We will have to agree to disagree on Driverz Inc's customer service, but thank you for the compliments on the car and your suggestions. Stay tuned for future updates!

I would really like to see those updates. Be sure and get some pics after its on the road.

[Ummgawa]

Jocko, for what it's worth, you have a great looking car. I've always pulled for the bigger A-body Oldsmobiles from the era you have built, but yours sits and looks killer. Someone here told you to finish it and that is sound advice. Get all the weight on it, the six speed in it, narrow the rear, discs, then go sling it into some curves. Then you will see Jon's wisdom in the selection. If it's a cruiser car, go with the 315's or fatter. Shame to see all that kick butt suspension and slick brakes and not throw it around some cones.

A few years back Jon spend a few hours on the phone with me about wheels and backspacing, all the while calls were coming in and he didn't hurry or rush me in any way. Thousands of great and satisfied people can't be undone by one whom it seems is "seeing the light" as far as wheel fitment goes. Jon did right by you, trust me, scrubbing wheels and tires suck, and one inch is a gift the first time you really get your beast in a twist suspension wise.

Good luck on completing your build.

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by 70rs

I would really like to see those updates. Be sure and get some pics after its on the road.

Will do.

[jocko124]

Originally Posted by Ummgawa

Jocko, for what it's worth, you have a great looking car. I've always pulled for the bigger A-body Oldsmobiles from the era you have built, but yours sits and looks killer. Someone here told you to finish it and that is sound advice. Get all the weight on it, the six speed in it, narrow the rear, discs, then go sling it into some curves. Then you will see Jon's wisdom in the selection. If it's a cruiser car, go with the 315's or fatter. Shame to see all that kick butt suspension and slick brakes and not throw it around some cones.

A few years back Jon spend a few hours on the phone with me about wheels and backspacing, all the while calls were coming in and he didn't hurry or rush me in any way. Thousands of great and satisfied people can't be undone by one whom it seems is "seeing the light" as far as wheel fitment goes. Jon did right by you, trust me, scrubbing wheels and tires suck, and one inch is a gift the first time you really get your beast in a twist suspension wise.

Good luck on completing your build.

Thanks Jim.

[Stuart Adams]

This has been educational on many fronts.

I have two thoughts that come to mind.

Wheels and stance are very critical and expensive. Double/Triple checking measurements are needed. If the customer has no clue then talk to a professional about measuring your car. If its not a one owner, you really have no clue if stock measurements from the book will work on your car. Minor wrecks, frame repairs, etc are common on 40 yr old cars.

A business should not advertise 100% satisfaction guarantee. That's impossible to live up to, even on our best day.

Guys, thanks for being civil.